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Germany demotes possession of child s*xual abuse images to misdemeanor
Posted on 5/22/24 at 7:57 am
Posted on 5/22/24 at 7:57 am
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Downgraded from felony to misdemeanor and minimum sentence is now just 3 months. This is disgusting.
Downgraded from felony to misdemeanor and minimum sentence is now just 3 months. This is disgusting.
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The German Parliament reportedly passed a bill Thursday downgrading the possession of child sexual abuse materials from a felony to a misdemeanor.
Possession and acquisition of child pornography will now receive “a minimum sentence of three months imprisonment in the future, and distribution with a minimum sentence of six months imprisonment,” the German Parliament, the Bundestag, writes in a press release issued Wednesday.
It states that the possession and acquisition of child pornography will in the future be “classified as misdemeanors and not as crimes.”
The bill received a majority of votes in the Parliament Thursday night, Reduxx reports.
The offense was reportedly classified as a felony in a 2021 reform with a minimum one-year sentence for the offense. The maximum penalties introduced in 2021 will be retained, parliament states.
This post was edited on 5/22/24 at 7:58 am
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Posted on 5/22/24 at 7:58 am to Water
I wonder what populace in Germany benefits the most from this? Hmmmm...
Posted on 5/22/24 at 7:59 am to Water
Leftist politicians placating to their migrant population?
Posted on 5/22/24 at 8:00 am to Klark Kent
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Leftist politicians placating to their migrant population?
No
This isn’t Muslim driven
Posted on 5/22/24 at 8:03 am to Gifman
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I wonder what populace in Germany benefits the most from this?
Child porn is haram. I doubt it was the Snackbars pushing for this.
Posted on 5/22/24 at 8:05 am to Water
Posted on 5/22/24 at 8:06 am to Water
I knew the Daily Caller was leaving shite out
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I figured this was about juveniles possession "child porn" (aka, nude images of their peers), but I didn't think of the other reason.
FWIW, we have done similar things by creating "sexting" laws to protect teens from child porn charges
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. This bill does not provide for any changes to the maximum penalties.
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According to the federal government, the proportionality of the minimum sentence of one year's imprisonment is questionable in some cases. This applies in particular “if the accused person obviously did not act out of his own sexual interest in child pornographic content,” but on the contrary, in particular in order to stop, prevent or clarify the further distribution or public access of child pornographic content. “Such cases have occurred particularly frequently among parents and teachers of older children or young people who have found child pornography material on them and forwarded it to other parents, teachers or the school management in order to inform them about the situation,” it says the draft.
Furthermore, the federal government sees the classification of the crimes as misdemeanors as an effective means of dealing with the numerous juvenile offenders appropriately and flexibly. "Here too, the people involved are not usually acting in order to be sexually aroused by the child pornography content, but rather out of a drive that is typical for the adolescent stage of development, such as naivety, curiosity, thirst for adventure or the desire to impress," the justification states.
I figured this was about juveniles possession "child porn" (aka, nude images of their peers), but I didn't think of the other reason.
FWIW, we have done similar things by creating "sexting" laws to protect teens from child porn charges
Posted on 5/22/24 at 8:06 am to Tantal
“The left isn’t trying to decriminalize pedophilia, you’re a bigoted conspiracy theorist!”
Posted on 5/22/24 at 8:06 am to Gifman
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I wonder what populace in Germany benefits the most from this? Hmmmm...
Teenagers
Posted on 5/22/24 at 8:08 am to Water
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s*xual
You're an adult, you can spell out "sexual"
Posted on 5/22/24 at 8:09 am to GetCocky11
Force of habit from posting on social media platforms
Posted on 5/22/24 at 8:11 am to Water
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Force of habit from posting on social media platforms
Social media is the worst. The worst is the rise of the word "unalive" as a replacement to "kill", "die", and "suicide"
Posted on 5/22/24 at 8:11 am to SlowFlowPro
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I figured this was about juveniles possession "child porn" (aka, nude images of their peers), but I didn't think of the other reason.
Not trying to protect anyone, but it’s hard to argue to put juveniles with pics of their girlfriends in jail for this and similarly call them a sex offender for having sex with a girl their age when it’s against the law and label them for life.
I don’t know the right answer but this doesn’t seem all wrong.
Posted on 5/22/24 at 8:12 am to SlowFlowPro
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SlowFlowPro
How dare you be a voice of reason.
The law needs to catch up with technology. I mention it in my book.
Two 16 year olds can have sex...but the one 16 year old can't send a dick pic to the chick/dude he is banging without getting arrested for child porn.
That makes sense.
Posted on 5/22/24 at 8:15 am to baldona
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Not trying to protect anyone, but it’s hard to argue to put juveniles with pics of their girlfriends in jail for this and similarly call them a sex offender for having sex with a girl their age when it’s against the law and label them for life.
I don’t know the right answer but this doesn’t seem all wrong.
Well carving out slices for them (like our "sexting" laws) seems prudent. Like we do with Romeo and Juliet laws.
Posted on 5/22/24 at 8:17 am to JodyPlauche
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How dare you be a voice of reason.
That's frowned upon with moral panics.
You're supposed to follow the instructions you're told how to act and react emotionally, instead.
But what would you, of all people, know about this?
I am curious the O/U of times this same story is posted on the poli board over the next week. Probably at least 5 times.
Posted on 5/22/24 at 8:18 am to SlowFlowPro
I think this is the wrong approach because it inadvertently provides leniency to predators.
Especially considering that the age of consent in Germany is 14.
Especially considering that the age of consent in Germany is 14.
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The age of consent in Germany is 14, as long as a person over the age of 21 does not exploit a 14- to 15-year-old person's lack of capacity for sexual self-determination, in which case a conviction of an individual over the age of 21 requires a complaint from the younger individual; being over 21 and engaging in sexual relations with a minor of that age does not constitute an offense by itself.
Otherwise the age of consent is 16, although provisions protecting minors against abuse apply until the age of 18
Posted on 5/22/24 at 8:19 am to SlowFlowPro
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I figured this was about juveniles possession "child porn" (aka, nude images of their peers), but I didn't think of the other reason.
So then why not make it a misdemeanor for people under 18 or 21 and keep the stiffer penalties for those over 21?
Posted on 5/22/24 at 8:23 am to Water
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because it inadvertently provides leniency to predators.
The maximum sentence was not changed, brother.
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Especially considering that the age of consent in Germany is 14.
That doesn't have anything to do with this
Posted on 5/22/24 at 8:26 am to Chucktown_Badger
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So then why not make it a misdemeanor for people under 18 or 21 and keep the stiffer penalties for those over 21?
It doesn't seem Germany structures their criminal laws like that. I imagine they have exponentially fewer criminal law than we do.
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