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re: Here's How Much Navy SEALs and Other Special Ops Make

Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:52 pm to
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:52 pm to
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Do these guys have real engineering degrees?


Some of them undoubtedly do but it's not required. They learn anything they need to learn in the Q Course and in follow on training.

SF attracts an eclectic bunch. The Soundgarden bassist was one. One of my hometown baws was prior service, had a successful architecture practice, rejoined at 40 and became an SF medic.
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:56 pm to
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Also all healthcare costs are covered. Not a bad gig.





Military medicine gets a bad rap but a Navy doc successfully diagnosed my sister when a bunch of civilians were stumped.
Posted by bubblehead26
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Posted on 5/14/21 at 12:52 am to
You have to break down the pay. After all, they are just military service members. They get the general basic pay, housing allowance, subsistence allowance (bas), and of course the health care. The extra pay they get comes as special duty assignment pay (450/month), jump pay if applicable, hazardous duty pay, imminent duty pay, and others I may not be thinking of. In my opinion, severely underpaid for their times. But, they also get around 100k reenlistment bonuses when their time comes around, and most of them will do it in a tax free zone to get the max money.
Posted by DaBeerz
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Posted on 5/14/21 at 4:11 am to
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2250-$2500 a month after 20 yrs


Wow, I make that in almost 2 days... that’s a shame
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 5/14/21 at 4:29 am to
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The Navy: Petty Officer Third Class (SEAL)

Like the U.S. Army, the Navy SEALs are made up of a large number of military personnel. Pay is greatly dependent on years of service and the nature of one’s contract. In 2018, an active and enlisted Petty Officer Third Class with under two years of service started at $2,089 a month. According to Glassdoor, the average salary for a Navy SEAL is $53,450. This doesn’t seem like much considering that these officers are the core of the United States Navy.


This post was edited on 5/14/21 at 4:31 am
Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Posted on 5/14/21 at 5:09 am to
And govt pensions.
Posted by Stealth Matrix
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Posted on 5/14/21 at 5:34 am to
Bezos, Gates, and other billionaire wannabe world rulers be like
Posted by 13SaintTiger
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Posted on 5/14/21 at 5:40 am to
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An O-6 (Colonel in the Air Force, fairly achievable if you do your job) with 16 years


Posted by 13SaintTiger
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Posted on 5/14/21 at 5:43 am to
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This also likely doesn't take into account housing allowance, subsistence allowance, completely covered healthcare costs, and possibly the special pays they receive for their various skills.


They aren’t off by much. Those numbers are pretty accurate, give or take location/BAH.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
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Posted on 5/14/21 at 5:43 am to
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Still lower than they could make in the private sector, but many of those guys weren't cut out for that life.



I would think it actually opens a whole lot of doors for them in “the private sector” once they get out, such that they don’t really sweat the pay too much while they’re in.
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 5/14/21 at 5:44 am to
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Don’t ruin it for him.
Posted by CharlesLSU
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Posted on 5/14/21 at 5:44 am to
Do understand they have almost zero expenses.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/14/21 at 5:56 am to
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Basic Pay Scale for Navy SEALS

The Basic U.S. Navy Pay Scales in 2018 are as follows:

Enlisted sailors entering the service at the lowest rank, E-1 (Seaman Recruit), receive $1,514 per month for the first four months of service and thereafter $1,638 per month.

The following are monthly pay scales for soldiers with less than three years of service at the given rank, beginning with sailors at rank E-2.

E-2, Seaman Apprentice, $1,836
E-3 Seaman, $1,931
E-4 Petty Officer Third Class, $2,139
E-5 Petty Officer Second Class, $2,333
E-6 Petty Officer First Class, $2,546
E-7 Chief Petty Officer, $2.944
E-8 Senior Chief Petty Officers, $4,235
E-9 Master Chief Petty Officer $5,173
W-1 Warrant Officer 1, $3,038
W-2 Chief Warrant Officer 2, $3,461
W-3 Chief Warrant Officer 3, $3,911
W-4 Chief Warrant Officer 4, $4,282
W-5 Chief Warrant Officer 5, $7,615
0-1 Ensign, $3,108
0-2 Lieutenant Junior Grade, $3,580
0-3 Lieutenant, $4,144
0-4 Lieutenant Commander, $4,713
0-5 Commander, $5,462
0-6 Captain, $6,552
0-7 Rear Admiral Lower Half $8,641
0-8 Rear Admiral $10,399
0-9 Vice Admiral $14,696
0-10 Admiral, $15,800

Navy Seals Rank and Pay Increases

In practice, although an enlisted sailor normally begins at the lowest rank, by the time he graduates from the SEAL program, he'll be at least an E-4, Petty Officer Third Class. SEALs, like all military personnel, receive a limited amount of pay raises at each rank. An E-4, for example, who begins with a salary of $2,139 a month, can receive a total of four raises over a four year period, with the last raise bringing his salary to $2,596. Thereafter, the only way to receive a salary increase is to advance to the next rank.

Extra Pay for SEALS

In addition to the same basic pay scales that apply to all U.S. military, a sailor who successfully enters the SEALs training program receives a $10,000 to $12,000 bonus and another $40,000 bonus upon graduation. Getting there isn't easy: SEAL recruits have to pass rigorous mental and physical exams to get into the program, which lasts about a year. By the end of the 21st week of training, about two-thirds of SEAL trainees have flunked or dropped out.

Once you've successfully passed the SEALs training course, you are then eligible for a variety of special warfare incentive pay increases. They average from $150 to $400 a month. A SEAL can qualify for these incentive pay increases in more than one category, bringing potential warfare incentive pay increases to about $1,000 a month over the normal Navy salary at a given rank.

Enlisted have always been grossly underpaid. But what the above doesn't add is Separation pay- No pay, and various other special pays but not a whole lot more.

Even when you add it all up they do not get paid enough. But keep in mind they have free healthcare-of course and a housing allowance according to rank is removed from the paycheck.

This nominal amount is rent and they get free electricity of course and pay no other bills. Other then furniture & groceries, personal items. booze, entertainment. Which are always quite discounted in all commissaries Navy/Marine Exchanges.

It is very much like socialized medicine. Medical personnel are other active duty learning on the job. The docs aren't too bad. So many medical calls and mistakes are made it isn't even funny.

You cannot sue any Military doctor or facility, clinic, hospital, for wrongful death, malpractice, anything.

This post was edited on 5/14/21 at 6:04 am
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 5/14/21 at 6:51 am to
Military pay charts are public info you don’t need Glassdoor’s BS estimates to know.

Even with the added billets no one in SF is doing it for the money. My son bitches about his pay (Army SF aviation) but ends the bitch with “but it’s pretty much all disposable income” because he has avoided the getting married and having kids trap.

For operators you have to add in duty pay, flight pay, and other specials but they still don’t make great money.

When deployed they also get a per diem which helps.
Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 5/14/21 at 7:55 am to
They make a lot more on contracts for security detail.
Posted by Biggio7
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 5/14/21 at 8:26 am to
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Now you understand why they have to pick up odd jobs like sniping looters from the roof of The Superdome.


Logged in just to upvote you. Well done sir
Posted by FlyingTiger06
Bossier City, LA
Member since Nov 2004
1934 posts
Posted on 5/14/21 at 8:38 am to
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An O-6 (Colonel in the Air Force, fairly achievable if you do your job) with 16 years


You've obviously never been a military officer. First, making O-6 is never "fairly achievable." That is an extremely difficult rank to attain. Second, in the AF we no longer have "Below the Zone" promotion opportunities, so moving forward the earliest you can make O-6 as a "Line of the Air Force" officer (i.e. not a direct commission like some doctors, dentists, lawyers, etc) who came in straight from a commissioning source as a 2LT is 20 years.

The salary is decent, but not great. However, not very many people joined the military because they were chasing big money.
Posted by waiting4saturday
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Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 5/14/21 at 8:50 am to
I’m guessing they get combat pay as well when deployed or training?
Posted by 777Tiger
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Posted on 5/14/21 at 9:14 am to
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This post was edited on 5/14/21 at 9:15 am
Posted by HeadSlash
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Posted on 5/14/21 at 9:15 am to
What about all the Wimmims they slay?
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