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How do you feel about young NY investment bankers being worked 80-100 weeks?

Posted on 5/9/24 at 7:14 pm
Posted by Thundercles
Mars
Member since Sep 2010
5088 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 7:14 pm
There's a slew of new conversation this week after a 35 year old guy dropped dead from being "overworked" and now people are coming out of the woodwork claiming horrible conditions and demanding "change". This happens every 2-3 years it seems (the complaints, not dying suddenly), and it's always the younger ones.

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For reference, these guys are getting paid ~160k out of college with hefty annual bonuses but in return they're expected to be on call about 18 hours a day for two years to make tiny changes and updates and do research for their superiors. If they make it through that meat grinder they enter the making millions territory and that's why they stay around.

My take? frick em. There are a million jobs where you can relax and get paid 1/3 of what they earn. No one is forcing them to take and continue in these jobs, and there are a thousand people that want to do it for every one person that can't hack it. What say you?
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
142329 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 7:15 pm to
I blame racism
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55506 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 7:16 pm to
There are so many people chasing the prestige and exit path that comes from working in IB that the institutions can effectively make the shittiest possible working conditions and there will still be thousands upon thousands willing and ready to eat shite.
This post was edited on 5/9/24 at 7:18 pm
Posted by Shunface
Lafayette County Detention Center
Member since Jan 2013
4592 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 7:17 pm to
160k in New York ain’t shite.

If you’re not making a million you’re lower class.
Posted by rintintin
Life is Life
Member since Nov 2008
16191 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 7:19 pm to
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If they make it through that meat grinder they enter the making millions territory and that's why they stay around.


I mean if this is really true after 2 years I'd say it's fine and probably worth it if you're young.

Something tells me it's not though.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55506 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 7:19 pm to
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If you’re not making a million you’re lower class.


Your best bet at getting to a million is by working in investment banking.

160k, even with NY taxes and NYC CoL, is still an incredible sum to be making as a new graduate.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71742 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 7:20 pm to
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160k in New York ain’t shite.

It ain't baller status but it ain't nothing
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
33138 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 7:21 pm to
I always wanted to be a banker
Posted by lsu xman
Member since Oct 2006
15577 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 7:22 pm to
Wow these are IVY league grads too. RN's can graduate from Southeastern and go make 200K+ in cali.
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
27471 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 7:22 pm to
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80-100 weeks


As a dad eho has worked 60 hours a week for the last 7 years, commuted an hour each way, and I have a significant amount of property I maintain, I'd tell them to stop being a bunch of bitches.
Posted by fareplay
Member since Nov 2012
4908 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 7:22 pm to
You don’t hit 1M as VP so prob at least 6
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
14822 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 7:23 pm to
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and I have a significant amount of property I maintain,


You got a zero-turn, pops?
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
27471 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 7:24 pm to
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You got a zero-turn, pops?


6 acres on it. The other 80 needs something a bit larger.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57357 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 7:26 pm to
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How do you feel about young NY investment bankers being worked 80-100 weeks?
Feel? It's none of my business.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
51684 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 7:27 pm to
I remember reading "young money", a book about overworked rookies on Wall St. The people the author followed around were all miserable. Good read
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71742 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 7:27 pm to
Based almost solely on seeing Margin Call, it looked like it sucked and ruled and those guys were kinda shitheads.
Posted by Knuckle Checker
Member since Jan 2019
264 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 7:28 pm to
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160k in New York ain’t shite.


They also don’t have any time to spend it so there’s that
Posted by Rendevoustavern
Member since May 2018
1554 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 7:29 pm to
Weakness. We were grounded to a stump after year 3 but year 4 they approach you with the olive branch that is a normal existence and $500k to survive. What they don’t tell you is that along the way you’re showered with opportunity that will come from no where else other than those jobs. I ended up getting poached by a PE firm. While it was a completely different speed, the guys above me were all ex guys too so it was a right of passage and could only get that job because of my previous experience.

Fast forward to today, my wife (no pics), is in her 7th year post med school, residency/fellowship and finally getting a job. These pussys can’t handle three years, while my wife gave birth to two kids, researched a project that will soon be adopted by the PICU community, and made no more than $72k along the way. These kids are soft.
Posted by ReedRothchild
South MS
Member since Jul 2019
1193 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 7:29 pm to
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I always wanted to be a banker


Posted by Will Cover
St. Louis, MO
Member since Mar 2007
38575 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 7:29 pm to
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How do you feel about young NY investment bankers being worked 80-100 weeks?


They know what they signed up for.

It's no different from an employee who starts with a company and then starts complaining about their pay. In both cases, the expectations and pay scale were known in advance. If they didn't agree with it, they should not have raised their hand to join the organization.
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