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re: How many grown men would it take to physically restrain a gorilla?

Posted on 4/24/18 at 1:59 pm to
Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 4/24/18 at 1:59 pm to
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Some of you are grossly underestimating how powerful these animals are.

I consider a grown man to be around 600lbs. I think its definitely feasible in that

They say Gorillas are at least 6 times stronger and possibly up to 15x than an athletic male human.

There are males that can curl 100lbs and this is before you consider that the focus of a Gorilla's strength is in its arms. So, crazy as it sounds, 600 seems pretty friggin feasible.

I agree with an earlier person who pointed out that you also are constrained by how many men can actually engage the thing at once.

Sure. One man with the strength of 20 could take him down.........but, 20 men are gonna have a hell of a time because no more than 4-5 are gonna get close at once.
Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
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Posted on 4/24/18 at 2:00 pm to
It's not just figuring kut a plan, it's sticking to the plan when the gorilla goes in on a few people.

"Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth."

--Mike Tyson
Posted by LSUZombie
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Posted on 4/24/18 at 2:00 pm to
Found this article to be a fun read

Professional Fighter vs. Gorilla: Who Would Win?

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Unless the gorilla is somehow hobbled (drugged, lamed, etc.), or the human fighter is armed (especially with something like a spear that can hold the gorilla off at a distance), the gorilla will kill the human and then be vaguely dejected that the human wasn't able to put up enough of a challenge to be interesting.


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Being a wild animal, the gorilla will throw 100 percent of his available resources into the fight from the word go. Humans—even professional fighters or soldiers—never do this, unless they are in such a state of psychosis that they might as well be wild animals.


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The gorilla's musculature and skeleton are considerably more robust than the human's, which means that the gorilla will soak up much more punishment before being seriously injured.


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What will happen is that the gorilla will close with the human and knock him off his feet. At that point, all—all—of the human's possible advantages are out the window, and it's all over but the screaming, bleeding, and dying.


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A gorilla can reach speeds of 20 mph to 25 mph. In comparison, Usain Bolt's record in the 100-meter dash roughly translates into 23 mph (Bolt reaches peak speeds of around 27 mph—but still).


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The average gorilla is approximately six to 15 times as strong (depending on who you ask).


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Conclusion: Human fighter, even if you're Brock Lesnar or Anderson Silva or whoever, is totally screwed in a straight up one-on-one fight.


I mean so this guy, who could probably pummel about 5-6 regular people with no problem:



Would get his shite pushed in by this animal, with the animal not even trying:


I don't know how many men it would take to get the job done. I imagine after a while the gorilla will tire out and then can be advanced upon. Not sure how many will die or become incapacitated during the assault, but the number would reach double digits.
Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 4/24/18 at 2:00 pm to
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It's not just figuring kut a plan, it's sticking to the plan when the gorilla goes in on a few people.


Yeah, cause the first few are going to get maimed in spectacular fashion.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/24/18 at 2:01 pm to
Who holds the head? Because this motherfricker is gonna bite out someones larynx.

And all 3 men on each arm/leg would have to grab at the precisely same moment for that to even have a chance, which would be really hard to get that many huge James Harrison types to converge in a small area at once.

The likeliest scenario is most, if not all, of the 3 man groups fail to restrain their designated limb and a few people get their heads ripped off and thrown at their friends

Posted by MontyFranklyn
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Posted on 4/24/18 at 2:01 pm to
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i am amazed how many people in this thread think this way
Think about all the ways Silver Back could render you lifeless for at least 10 minutes. A gorilla could just charge and Terry Tate hit stick you and you're dead.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/24/18 at 2:05 pm to
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Think about all the ways Silver Back could render you lifeless for at least 10 minutes. A gorilla could just charge and Terry Tate hit stick you and you're dead.




They are "yankers" when they play around with humans they know and can playfully (barely any effort) dislocate arms as easily as humans open a car door.

Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
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Posted on 4/24/18 at 2:05 pm to
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Yeah, cause the first few are going to get maimed in spectacular fashion.


Yeah, in the hypothetical, the gorilla comes out ready for war. I don't even know how you convince the first 5 or 10 people to go in because they're just getting sacrificed.

Once a swarm starts, maybe the people have a chance, but how do you convince people to stick with a plan and execute when they face down a pissed off gorilla?
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 4/24/18 at 2:10 pm to
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Think about all the ways Silver Back could render you lifeless for at least 10 minutes.

Oh, he'd render you lifeless for way more than ten minutes.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
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Posted on 4/24/18 at 2:11 pm to
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Once a swarm starts, maybe the people have a chance, but how do you convince people to stick with a plan and execute when they face down a pissed off gorilla?


I don't know about that. I do know that a riled up bobcat would do the job.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
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Posted on 4/24/18 at 2:16 pm to
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Oh, he'd render you lifeless for way more than ten minutes.
Most definitely, but with little effort and exertion of energy, he could lay you down flat for at least 10 minutes.
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 4/24/18 at 2:16 pm to
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in the hypothetical


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How many grown men would it take to physically restrain a gorilla?


so it only works one way? we are assuming how many men would it take to take down a gorilla...not how many men are going to half assed try to take down a gorilla
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 4/24/18 at 2:19 pm to
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Yeah, in the hypothetical, the gorilla comes out ready for war. I don't even know how you convince the first 5 or 10 people to go in because they're just getting sacrificed.



and thats one thing about this hypothetical. the first 5 get destroyed and the gorilla might not even be close to winded. then the hypothetical basically gets reset.

looking at gorilla videos on youtube really make you think different about this. these things move like they have a rocket in their asses. and one thing thats noticeable is the leverage they would have on humans attacking them

the pulling power is enormous. he just dragged this guy like he was a sack of potatoes

Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 4/24/18 at 2:20 pm to
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he pulling power is enormous. he just dragged this guy like he was a sack of potatoes


meanwhile men would be attacking him from all sides
Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
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Posted on 4/24/18 at 2:21 pm to
How realistic is it that your men fully commit to taking down the gorilla in the face of imminent death.

And yeah, this is pretty much all hypothetical, so debating these aspects is the fun of it. If we don't start with the hypo...well, this scenario isn't happening.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
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Posted on 4/24/18 at 2:22 pm to
just one

Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 4/24/18 at 2:22 pm to
That goofy Discovery channel show Animal Face-Off did leopard vs. gorilla. If you don't remember the show, they'd discuss the fight with experts on each animal, do a few experiments, then show the fight in a cartoon.

It went like this: At the start of the fight, the leopard stalked the gorilla from above, and jumped down on his back and tried to bite the back of his neck. The gorilla reached up, and flung the leopard off. Then, the gorilla gave the leopard a little swat, and the tusseled some and exchanged some a few bites. All this time, the gorilla was getting furious.

Finally, they squared off about 10 feet apart eyeballing each other. The gorilla held his ground, and balled up his fist behind his back, waiting. The leopard lunged in, the gorilla timed the lunge, and brought that balled up fist down onto the leopard's spine, folding him like a lawn chair. One blow--dead as Julius Caesar.

The show was retarded, but that is how I think the encounter would go on open ground. You can see this bs on youtube. Don't over expect.
Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
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Posted on 4/24/18 at 2:25 pm to
One other thing, I want to be clear that I'm seriously emotionally invested in this topic. Just in case my posts don't make that clear.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/24/18 at 2:25 pm to
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meanwhile men would be attacking him from all sides



And doing what exactly? Punching him? Because that wouldn't do shite.


They're like 5'5" and 400 lbs. Their muscle mass is so dense and covers their entire body. It would be like punching wet sand.


This post was edited on 4/24/18 at 2:29 pm
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 4/24/18 at 2:26 pm to
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meanwhile men would be attacking him from all sides



i doubt the fight would be the gorilla dragging around 1 guy while everyone beats on him

https://youtu.be/3T0z1CT-nR8?t=27

video of 2 gorillas getting into it. this dude acting like that would wreck shop with average humans trying to attack him.
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