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If the South had not fired the first shot at Ft Sumter, what would have likely happened?
Posted on 4/25/25 at 10:01 pm
Posted on 4/25/25 at 10:01 pm
What if they would have blockaded Sumter, would things have played out differently?
Just trying to learn.
Just trying to learn.
This post was edited on 4/25/25 at 10:04 pm
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Posted on 4/25/25 at 10:02 pm to 308
The first shot would have been fired elsewhere
Posted on 4/25/25 at 10:06 pm to fr33manator
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The first shot would have been fired elsewhere
By whom?
What would have happened if the South refused to take the first action?
Was there ever any chance the North would have simply let the South go?
Just trying to learn.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 10:09 pm to 308
It's a good question IMHO.
I think I recall that the South's reasoning behind firing on Sumter was to start the war so that the fence-sitting states like Virginia would be forced to pick a side and that side would likely be the Confederacy.
I think I recall that the South's reasoning behind firing on Sumter was to start the war so that the fence-sitting states like Virginia would be forced to pick a side and that side would likely be the Confederacy.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 10:10 pm to 308
If the war hadn't happened, would tractors and combines have never been invented, or would the eventual invention of tractors and combines freed the slaves without a war?
Posted on 4/25/25 at 10:10 pm to 308
If the Union had lost the war, we'd all be speaking English now
Posted on 4/25/25 at 10:12 pm to Kafka
Yeah, but prolly good English.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 10:12 pm to 308
We would have missed out on the opportunity to pay federal taxes. So much for that whole tax rates being only 3-5% and then a promise of it only being1% of the 1 percenters, huh?
This post was edited on 4/26/25 at 10:42 am
Posted on 4/25/25 at 10:13 pm to 308
quote:
Was there ever any chance the North would have simply let the South go?
No.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 11:57 pm to 308
Fun Fact
The South's firing on Fort Sumter resulted in no deaths of Union soldiers.
The South's firing on Fort Sumter resulted in no deaths of Union soldiers.
Posted on 4/26/25 at 12:02 am to 308
quote:
If the South had not fired the first shot at Ft Sumter, what would have likely happened?
The shelling of Fort Sumpter wasn't the first shots of the Civil War. Learn your history.
quote:
The Star of the West was a merchant steamship that played a significant role in the events leading up to the Civil War. On January 9, 1861, the ship was fired upon by Confederate batteries as it attempted to deliver supplies to Fort Sumter in Charleston Harbor, South Carolina. This incident is often cited as the first shots exchanged between the North and South during the Civil War.
Posted on 4/26/25 at 12:12 am to 308
Another fun fact
P.G.T. Beauregard was a Chalmation
P.G.T. Beauregard was a Chalmation
Posted on 4/26/25 at 12:42 am to GoAwayImBaitn
quote:I thought that he was from farther down river. Violet? Meraux? I think it was Violet.
P.G.T. Beauregard was a Chalmation
Posted on 4/26/25 at 12:49 am to 308
Slavery would have ended by the early 1900’s. Northern states, as well as Europe, would have stopped buying from the south forcing changes. Automation in farming would have continued to make slavery less and less of a necessity. Lawmakers from southern states would have started focusing on some way to take care of plantation owners and others who would lose their investment in slaves.
Posted on 4/26/25 at 12:49 am to Rabby
Actually there were 4 Union casualties but it happened during a salute after the surrender when a Union cannon burst, killing 1 and wounding 3.
Posted on 4/26/25 at 1:04 am to 308
quote:
What if they would have blockaded Sumter, would things have played out differently?
A Civil War or a at least a break up of the union of states was inevitable since the formation of our country. Several states almost didn't ratify the constitution over the issue of slavery, concerns of large state vs small states, and concerns state's rights vs large federal government.
Most people don't realize that the original formation of our country was a very loose confederation of states. Honestly, I'm surprised that we managed to go almost 100 years before an attempted break up.
Posted on 4/26/25 at 4:27 am to 308
Not this again
Posted on 4/26/25 at 5:21 am to Demonbengal
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Lawmakers from southern states would have started focusing on some way to take care of plantation owners and others who would lose their investment in slaves.
So corporate welfare?
Posted on 4/26/25 at 6:08 am to Purplehaze
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Actually there were 4 Union casualties but it happened during a salute after the surrender when a Union cannon burst, killing 1 and wounding 3.
good fact, but he said Souths firing
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The South's firing on Fort Sumter resulted in no deaths of Union soldiers.
Posted on 4/26/25 at 7:13 am to Demonbengal
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Slavery would have ended by the early 1900’s. Northern states, as well as Europe, would have stopped buying from the south forcing changes. Automation in farming would have continued to make slavery less and less of a necessity. Lawmakers from southern states would have started focusing on some way to take care of plantation owners and others who would lose their investment in slaves.
Would have been sooner than that. Brazil, the last country in the western hemisphere to abolish slavery and the country with the most slaves, ended slavery 1888. Brazil imported over 5 million slaves, in contrast the US imported 340,000. And they ended it without a war. Process started in 1871 ending 16 years later. Slavery was dying out, the civil war didn’t have to happen. I could be wrong, but that’s how I feel.
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