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Is Solitare (Draw 3) still the hardest of the basic card games to win?

Posted on 10/9/16 at 6:49 pm
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
66379 posts
Posted on 10/9/16 at 6:49 pm
I am talking about computer card games. The basic ones. I have a app on my Mac Desktop and play a lot of card games at times. Solitare, FreeCell, Pyramid, Spider Solitaire etc.

I can win just about every one of the games at least 40% of the time other than basic 3 card draw solitaire.


Seems that game is just not winnable 75% of the time


Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
82629 posts
Posted on 10/9/16 at 6:51 pm to
no
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
39327 posts
Posted on 10/9/16 at 6:53 pm to
Uno with a Sicilian.
Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
Member since Oct 2005
139098 posts
Posted on 10/9/16 at 6:54 pm to
spider solitaire
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
66379 posts
Posted on 10/9/16 at 6:54 pm to
quote:

spider solitaire


I can beat its arse most of the time. Two suits.

I think it has a higher win ratio using two suits. I have won 3 suits once and never even got close on 4 suits


Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18697 posts
Posted on 10/9/16 at 6:55 pm to
Gaming Board.
Posted by SECond2none™
Member since Aug 2003
7734 posts
Posted on 10/9/16 at 6:56 pm to
quote:

For a standard game of Klondike of the forms Draw 3, Re-Deal Infinite, and Win 52, the number of possible hands is over 8×1067, or an 8 followed by 67 zeros. About 79% of the games are theoretically winnable,[3] but people do not win 79% of the games they start because they make a wrong move during play


quote:

Another recent study has found the Draw 3, Re-Deal Infinite to have a 83.6% win rate after 1000 random games were solved by a computer solver.
quote:

The issue is that a wrong move cannot be known in advance whenever more than one move is possible. The number of games a player can probabilistically expect to win is at least 43%.

LINK
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
66379 posts
Posted on 10/9/16 at 7:02 pm to
quote:

Another recent study has found the Draw 3, Re-Deal Infinite to have a 83.6% win rate


God Damnit



quote:

The issue is that a wrong move cannot be known in advance whenever more than one move is possible



Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
40363 posts
Posted on 10/9/16 at 7:07 pm to
Freecell kicks my arse every time.
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
28404 posts
Posted on 10/9/16 at 7:07 pm to
quote:

Uno with a Sicilian.


NEVER when death is on the line.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
66379 posts
Posted on 10/9/16 at 7:08 pm to
quote:

Freecell kicks my arse every time.


In my opinion, one of the easier games. Not sure why. I have never played a free cell game I can not win. I may not win the first time but I can go back and replay and win

Penguin is a fun game. Very challenging. I think it is also called Russian solitaire.

LINK
This post was edited on 10/9/16 at 7:10 pm
Posted by stniaSxuaeG
Member since Apr 2014
1600 posts
Posted on 10/9/16 at 7:11 pm to
quote:

Freecell kicks my arse every time.
92% win rate.

Posted by TrebleHook
Member since Jun 2016
1356 posts
Posted on 10/9/16 at 7:16 pm to
Cruel, golf, tripeaks, tut's tomb
Posted by M. A. Ryland
silver spring, MD
Member since Dec 2005
2113 posts
Posted on 10/9/16 at 7:24 pm to
quote:

quote: Freecell kicks my arse every time.
92% win rate.

As I recall, there were only 3 (out of 32k the RNG supported) hands in the game that couldn't be won.
Something like that.. but I'm too lazy to google now....
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
19986 posts
Posted on 10/9/16 at 7:25 pm to
I'm a little over 10% on Vegas style solitaire.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
66379 posts
Posted on 10/9/16 at 7:56 pm to
quote:

I'm a little over 10% on Vegas style solitaire.



Will check it out tomorrow. When sober


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