re: Karen Read murder trial

Karen Read looks like she would be a fun couple of nights.

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And then maybe hit you with a car

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She only hits men she doesnt respect that make her take care of his responsibilities for him.

Dude sounded like he had good intentions with those kids but was using her.

Kerry Roberts' testimony has changed from trial 1.

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I just finished watching the HBO show on this trial. What am I missing as this new trial starts. What is the big reveal here? I find it hard to believe that the people in the house beat him to death, then planted evidence. Saying that, I don't necessarily believe that she hit him. Although that is more believable than the other possibility to me. I believe she'll be found guilty this time around, even though it's not rock solid that she did it.

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Were there two HBO specials? Because the one I watched, I didn't come away with this opinion at all..

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Occam's razor is that she accidentally hit him

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How does that razor feel about the lacerations up and down his arm totally inconsistent with that theory?

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Occam's razor is that she accidentally hit him

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It is? Well she didn't hit him so I guess Occam's razor is wrong.

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How does that razor feel about the lacerations up and down his arm totally inconsistent with that theory?

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You think that the most likely scenario is that he went into the house, was attacked, a dog bit/scratched him, and then like 12 people were involved in covering up the incident?

I'm not saying that isn't what happened, I'm just saying that isn't the most likely scenario.

I don't know what the most likely scenario, but the deep lacerations (parallel both above and below the elbow) are not consistent in any way with a vehicle strike coupled with no other blunt force trauma consistent with a vehicle strike anywhere on his body.

The phone calls and subsequent destroying of the phones by two people at the house is very sketchy, as is the "rehoming" of the dog that lived there for 7 years.

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I guess Occam's razor is wrong.

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The most likely scenario isn't always the scenario that occurred. I even said that. It's definitely possible that there was a setup, an attack, and there are a shite ton of people covering up what actually happened. I just don't think that is the most likely scenario.

I also don't think that she should get convicted just because I believe that her accidentally hitting him is the most likely scenario. There is enough doubt to go against that, IMO.

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You think that the most likely scenario is that he went into the house, was attacked, a dog bit/scratched him, and then like 12 people were involved in covering up the incident?

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It could be something else because her hitting him at 24 mph is very unlikely. His injuries are not at all consistent with her hitting him.

If she hit him, in order for him to be where he was found.. He would have had to crawl there right? If I recall, I am pretty sure it was highly unlikely for him to be in the spot he was found if she hit him.

Somewhere in this thread I discuss this and posted the results for ChatGPT when I asked what would happen to a 200 lbs person if they were hit by a car backing up at 24 mph and while I don't remember the response, I think it pretty much said that there would be injuries caused from falling down, then of course where the person was struck.

And then the McCabe woman.. sister in law? Her phone showed someone searched "how long to die in cold". I know she said it was done after he was found.. Was this able to be proven? Anyone buy that?