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re: Karen Read murder trial - Not guilty on main - guilty of OUI(DUI) only

Posted on 4/23/25 at 10:01 am to
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80105 posts
Posted on 4/23/25 at 10:01 am to
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However, the CW has pointed out a few times already in trail 2 that "all of Officer John O'Keefe's injuries were on the right side of his body". I wonder if their theory will be slightly different for this trail?


I think they are trying to get at the fact that if it was a fight and then a dog also got involved that there would be wounds to both sides of the body.

I'm not sure how they intend to explain the lacerations and swelling to the face since they have to say the strike came from the back of the arm.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
17455 posts
Posted on 4/23/25 at 10:04 am to
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Hitting a moving target (or stationary), who is presumably facing the car, at 24 mph, in reverse, on purpose, while drunk,.....
is a tough thing to do....

I don't believe that they are saying that he was facing the car. And it depends on where the object is that you are trying to hit. If the object is directly behind the car and all you have to do is step on the gas and hold the steering wheel straight, that's not that tough...
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Dandy Chiggins

You keep posting a lot of things as factual statements that aren't actually true.
This post was edited on 4/23/25 at 10:07 am
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
93044 posts
Posted on 4/23/25 at 10:24 am to
I'm assuming everyone at the after party were all parked in the driveway and none of them on the street?

Is the state presuming OJO went in for "10 mins" then came out, had a fight with KR, she pulled up enough distance to floor it in reverse, get up to 24mph then run him over?

Prosecution has no idea what killed that man.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86547 posts
Posted on 4/23/25 at 10:29 am to
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that was the claim in the first trail.

However, the CW has pointed out a few times already in trail 2 that "all of Officer John O'Keefe's injuries were on the right side of his body". I wonder if their theory will be slightly different for this trail?
Don't you hate it that spellcheck doesn't catch trail?
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
17455 posts
Posted on 4/23/25 at 10:32 am to
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Is the state presuming OJO went in for "10 mins" then came out, had a fight with KR, she pulled up enough distance to floor it in reverse, get up to 24mph then run him over?

No the prosecution says he never went in the house.
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
6918 posts
Posted on 4/23/25 at 10:33 am to
This is one busy damn fire station next to the courthouse.. Damn
Posted by Dandy Chiggins
Member since Jan 2021
763 posts
Posted on 4/23/25 at 10:38 am to
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You keep posting a lot of things as factual statements that aren't actually true.


And admit others follow it closely and admit if someone clarifies it for me.
I’m not a juror. I’m casually discussing a trial I’m interested in on a message board.
Feel free to skip over my posts.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
17455 posts
Posted on 4/23/25 at 10:46 am to
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And admit others follow it closely and admit if someone clarifies it for me.
I’m not a juror. I’m casually discussing a trial I’m interested in on a message board.
Feel free to skip over my posts.

I don't mind you casually discussing the case, but you are posting things that aren't true as if you know them to be true. If you don't know something, that's fine, but don't act as if it's fact. I would skip over your posts if you were stating an opinion. But when you say things like "KR was in the driveway. Both sides testified to that." it confuses other people in this thread. You are stating something that is completely false. You literally just made that up.
This post was edited on 4/23/25 at 10:50 am
Posted by Dandy Chiggins
Member since Jan 2021
763 posts
Posted on 4/23/25 at 11:00 am to
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I don't mind you casually discussing the case, but you are posting things that aren't true as if you know them to be true. If you don't know something, that's fine, but don't act as if it's fact. I would skip over your posts if you were stating an opinion. But when you say things like "KR was in the driveway. Both sides testified to that." it confuses other people in this thread. You are stating something that is completely false. You literally just made that up.


I'll try and keep your rules in mind for future posts...
Sorry I used "In driveway" instead of "in front of the house". It does make a difference.

Here are some other quotes from my posts:
"I must have missed that"
"certainly open to interpretation"
"I'm guessing it was the defense.?"
"You seem to know it pretty well"

I clearly admit I'm a casual follower, that I'm guessing, that others know more...etc...
So please go pick a message board fight with someone else. A cursory review of my posts shows I'm clearly not claiming to be some expert on this trial and admit other know more about this.

Its an internet message board dude....I don't take it too seriously. Sorry you do.



Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
17455 posts
Posted on 4/23/25 at 11:08 am to
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I'll try and keep your rules in mind for future posts...

I'm not over here trying to make rules for this thread. Surely you can understand how you saying that both sides testified to something that is the opposite of what they actually testified to is confusing right? There are many others in this thread that are in your same situation and haven't followed along super closely. So when you post things that simply aren't true, it confuses them.
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Here are some other quotes from my posts:
"I must have missed that"
"certainly open to interpretation"
"I'm guessing it was the defense.?"
"You seem to know it pretty well"

That's great. I would recommend using more language like that. That are several people in this thread that are willing to help you with the facts, inluding me.
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I clearly admit I'm a casual follower, that I'm guessing, that others know more...etc...
So please go pick a message board fight with someone else. A cursory review of my posts shows I'm clearly not claiming to be some expert on this trial and admit other know more about this.

Its an internet message board dude....I don't take it too seriously. Sorry you do.


I'm not taking it too seriously. I'm simply asking you to not post made up things as if they are fact. I don't understand why you think that's a crazy request.
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
6918 posts
Posted on 4/23/25 at 11:12 am to
Alan Jackson is a master of redirect.

I thought Kerry Roberts came off as an honest witness on direct and he's destroying her

ETA-- Brennan is pretty damn good too..
This post was edited on 4/23/25 at 11:30 am
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86547 posts
Posted on 4/23/25 at 12:14 pm to
Posted by Dandy Chiggins
Member since Jan 2021
763 posts
Posted on 4/23/25 at 12:31 pm to
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That's great. I would recommend using more language like that.


So the recommendation is to use "more" of the language I've already been using? Got it.

quote:

I'm simply asking you to not post made up things as if they are fact.


Use "in front of house" instead of "driveway", which I already admitted was a mistake. Got it.

quote:

I'm not taking it too seriously. I'm simply asking you to not post made up things as if they are fact. I don't understand why you think that's a crazy request


I'm certainly not going to fact check my memory against the trial transcripts before posting to a tigerdroppings thread; so again, feel free to skip over my posts. Or continue to have a weird boner for fact checking me.
Once again, I'm no expert and have freely admitted if I've made an error and; continually add qualifiers to my posts as noted above. Hope your day gets better man.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
17455 posts
Posted on 4/23/25 at 12:42 pm to
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So the recommendation is to use "more" of the language I've already been using? Got it.

Yes, if you don't know something to be a fact, you should clarify that.
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Use "in front of house" instead of "driveway", which I already admitted was a mistake. Got it.

Yes.
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I'm certainly not going to fact check my memory against the trial transcripts before posting to a tigerdroppings thread; so again, feel free to skip over my posts.

You don't have to triple check trial transcripts. Where Karen's car was is a very simplistic fact of the case that doesn't require you to read through transcripts. And no, I'm not going to simply skip over posts in which you are stating incorrect claims as if they are fact. I am going to correct you, just as other have in this thread. Again, there are other people in this thread that are also learning about the case. So it's nice to have factual information presented in here. I'm sorry if that bothers you.
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
6918 posts
Posted on 4/23/25 at 12:48 pm to
Its back on....
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
6918 posts
Posted on 4/23/25 at 12:51 pm to
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I'm certainly not going to fact check my memory against the trial transcripts before posting


I don't think it's a big or unreasonable ask not to present fiction as fact. i gotta side with Boosie on this one. But I'll just skip over your posts.
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
6918 posts
Posted on 4/23/25 at 12:52 pm to
John Okeefe Mom is on now.
Posted by Dandy Chiggins
Member since Jan 2021
763 posts
Posted on 4/23/25 at 12:53 pm to
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I think that ship has sailed.


Agree, it is admittance they wasted $millions of taxpayer money on a bad investigation/prosecution.

*Note: This is an opinion only, I have not checked trial transcripts; nor been provided with a cost of prosecution analysis. Please do not rely on this post. Please draw your own conclusions based on trial transcripts only. For entertainment purposes only*
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
6918 posts
Posted on 4/23/25 at 12:54 pm to
quote:

*Note: This is an opinion only, I have not checked trial transcripts; nor been provided with a cost of prosecution analysis. Please do not rely on this post. Please draw your own conclusions based on trial transcripts only. For entertainment purposes only*


Posted by jorconalx
alexandria
Member since Aug 2011
10732 posts
Posted on 4/23/25 at 1:00 pm to
Y’all both need to stfu and quit cluttering the thread
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