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Looks like carmakers are well into DEI

Posted on 2/19/24 at 9:49 am
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 2/19/24 at 9:49 am
And looks like a couple of very rich locals are about to lose some expansion plans.

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Gayle Benson and Troy Duhon have been edged out of some of the Ray Brandt car dealerships they had agreed to buy as part of a deal to settle the late auto mogul's estate.

The deal to split Brandt's 14 dealerships and five collision centers between Saints and Pelicans owner Benson and local auto magnate Duhon was agreed in principle last summer but has been undergoing a lengthy approval process from the nine different carmakers involved.


Why?

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In recent months, some of the carmakers have exercised their "right of first refusal" to bring in other buyers, according to four sources familiar with the proposed deals.

Now, the transactions set to dissolve Brandt's dealership network across Louisiana and Mississippi — worth some $280 million — are expected to include Damian Mills, a regional auto "megadealer."

Mills controls Mills Auto Group, an empire of three dozen dealerships in eight states, making the Garyville native one of the country's largest Black-owned car dealer group, according to the National Association of Minority Automobile Dealers, or NAMAD, an organization which Mills chairs.


So the carmakers can't mess with the terms of the sale, but they can choose who gets to pay the terms of the sale. This is no uncommon in franchise deals.

But...

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Alan Haig, an auto industry analyst, said there are benefits from the practice, for example to curb poor performers and to advance minority ownership.

"In a lot of cases where there is a sale of a dealership, the carmaker will say, 'What do I get out of this?" Haig said. They might seek an upgrade to a facility or they might be looking to open up a new opportunity for a minority owner, he said.


So seems like several carmakers would rather have a minoirty own some of these dealerships, instead of lily white Gayle Benson and Troy Duhon.

Also, there is this nugget...

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The Louisiana native's ambitions apparently extend far beyond his auto empire. Last month, amid the ongoing dealership transactions, Mills asked to meet with senior Benson Group executives and put forward a proposition to buy the Saints, according to two sources familiar with the meeting.
Posted by JetsetNuggs
Member since Jun 2014
13996 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 9:52 am to
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they might be looking to open up a new opportunity for a minority owner


Lol nobody really gives a frick about this when money is talking
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
15751 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 9:53 am to
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The Louisiana native's ambitions apparently extend far beyond his auto empire. Last month, amid the ongoing dealership transactions, Mills asked to meet with senior Benson Group executives and put forward a proposition to buy the Saints, according to two sources familiar with the meeting.

Yeah that's not gonna happen.
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
23677 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 9:54 am to
If the white owners are shoved aside for a minority owner solely on the basis of race, they should, but likely won't, sue for race discrimination.

42 USC 1981 prohibits contract discrimination on account of race.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37168 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 9:58 am to
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Lol nobody really gives a frick about this when money is talking


Seems like the money is the same either way, no?
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
7893 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 10:08 am to
Can you imagine the outcry if the races were reversed?
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
21983 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 10:29 am to
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If the white owners are shoved aside for a minority owner solely on the basis of race, they should, but likely won't, sue for race discrimination.

42 USC 1981 prohibits contract discrimination on account of race.
They better have data on their side backing up that the minority buyer's existing dealerships are performing better than the white buyer who got shoved aside.
Posted by cubsfan5150
Member since Nov 2007
15795 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 10:29 am to
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Can you imagine the outcry if the races were reversed?


That’s one of my main issues. Treat everything the same and people would have less issue with the racial BS currently going on.
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
8727 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 10:40 am to
Think back thirty some years ago when a melanin VP of Pepsi got lots of publicity for buying a bunch of stores in a franchise in the NOLA area that had been owned by the corporation. IIRC it was a chain of pizza stores.
Lots and lots of publicity about the sale to a black man.

Some bank might have financed the buy out. The shops weren't doing that well when sold.

The subsequent bankruptcy several years later didn't get much publicity. But Pepsi got rid of some bad investments as I recall. And the bank ...got a writeoff whether they needed it or not.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30847 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 10:43 am to
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quote:

The Louisiana native's ambitions apparently extend far beyond his auto empire. Last month, amid the ongoing dealership transactions, Mills asked to meet with senior Benson Group executives and put forward a proposition to buy the Saints, according to two sources familiar with the meeting.


Yeah that's not gonna happen.



Correct, Mills is worth 6 million dollars, he ain't touching the Saints under the current ownership rules which require the primary owner to have a 30% stake in the team. The Saints were valued by Forbes at $4.075B, 30% is $1.223B

Now the NFL is considering changing the rules to allow for institutional investor ownership and maybe changing debt and equity requirements so who knows what that will bring?

https://www.sportspromedia.com/news/nfl-ownership-rules-private-equity-institutional-investment-committee/?zephr_sso_ott=NAPDDE

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Following the Denver and Washington transactions, the finance committee agreed that it would be appropriate to look at the full range of ownership policies, including permitted debt levels, minimum equity requirements and holding periods, eligible categories of investors, and expanding opportunities for more diverse ownership,’ Goodell (pictured above) wrote in a memo seen by SBJ.
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
18929 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 11:29 am to
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Following the Denver and Washington transactions, the finance committee agreed that it would be appropriate to look at the full range of ownership policies, including permitted debt levels, minimum equity requirements and holding periods, eligible categories of investors, and expanding opportunities for more diverse ownership,’ Goodell (pictured above) wrote in a memo seen by SBJ.


Wait until a DEI focused NFL ownership deal causes a team to go into bankruptcy. You will have some players really kneeling when they don't get their paychecks.

They can posture all they want but let's see how DEI focused they are when its their money that is at stake.
Posted by achenator
Member since Oct 2014
2958 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 11:39 am to
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Correct, Mills is worth 6 million dollars,

6 million but owns 36 dealerships? Where are you getting that he is worth $6 million? My friends family owns about 20 stores in Atlanta and just their weekend house in Highlands is worth $6mm LOL.
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
15751 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 11:47 am to
Maybe Jeff Bezos can buy the Saints.
Maybe then we can get painted end zones
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
8727 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 11:48 am to
One way would be that the banks own the dealerships and he's paying interest on the loans but not yet getting any of the principal. (Same way individual home ownership works: 30 year mortgage, first ten years you're paying interest but barely touching the principal.)
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
7893 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 11:48 am to
Yeah, that doesn’t really sound right. Of course there are lots of examples out there of people who “own” a lot of stuff and handle a lot of money who are also drowning in debt.
Posted by Jdiggy
Member since Nov 2016
614 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 12:10 pm to
Do they outright own the house on highland or have their names on a mortgage on the house?
Posted by BregmansWheelbarrow
Member since Mar 2020
2664 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 12:29 pm to
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Mills controls Mills Auto Group, an empire of three dozen dealerships in eight states, making the Garyville native one of the country's largest Black-owned car dealer group, according to the National Association of Minority Automobile Dealers, or NAMAD, an organization which Mills chairs.


I mean, it doesn’t really sound like he needs any help…
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30847 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 5:22 pm to
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6 million but owns 36 dealerships? Where are you getting that he is worth $6 million? My friends family owns about 20 stores in Atlanta and just their weekend house in Highlands is worth $6mm LOL.



I grabbed the first thing I found online. Looking around a bit more I have found all sorts of numbers. Based on everything I would say 6 Mil is low. I've seen anywhere from 12-20plus Mil. He also appears to be a minority stakeholder in the Hornets.

I can't really find anything definitive on him. I am also not sure how much he is leveraged on any of this stuff.
This post was edited on 2/19/24 at 5:24 pm
Posted by toratiger
susukino
Member since Aug 2008
2608 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 6:49 pm to
Gayle is a minority.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119561 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 6:57 pm to
Those are car sellers, not car makers. Bit I'm sure, they are as well.
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