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Louisiana vape ban stalled by The Louisiana Convenience and Vape Store Association
Posted on 11/1/23 at 1:46 pm
Posted on 11/1/23 at 1:46 pm
Didn't realize "The Louisiana Convenience and Vape Store Association" was a real thing, but here we are.
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A new law that was widely expected to ban flavored vape products in Louisiana this month has been stymied after a retailers’ association challenged the legislation in court.
The Louisiana Convenience and Vape Store Association filed a petition Tuesday for a temporary restraining order and permanent injunction of the law, which bans retailers from selling vape products not listed on a state-approved registry.
Filed in East Baton Rouge Parish, the lawsuit lists two state agencies and their top officials as defendants: Commissioner Ernest Legier and the Louisiana Office of Alcohol and Tobacco Control (ATC), and Secretary Kevin Richard of the Louisiana Department of Revenue.
In a statement, Legier promised to defend the law in court. He called the legislation a response to “a nationwide vape usage epidemic within the most vulnerable of our citizens—our youth.”
“The ATC intends to vigorously defend its obligation to protect Louisiana citizens and looks forward to a judicial decision rendered in its favor,” Legier said.
But vaping association argues “businesses will be irreparably harmed and may likely close if this legislation is not enjoined,” according to the lawsuit, a copy of which was provided by Legier’s office.
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Posted on 11/1/23 at 1:48 pm to BilbeauTBaggins
We must protect the people from themselves.
Posted on 11/1/23 at 1:51 pm to BilbeauTBaggins
It’s quite odd that Juul and the other companies can’t sell flavored cartridge vapes (and they still sell the menthol and tobacco flavors at circle k) but there are hundreds if not thousands of smaller companies selling flavored disposable vapes in every sketchy gas station (the ones that actually would sell to an underaged kid) in america.
Either both kinds should be banned or none should.
Either both kinds should be banned or none should.
Posted on 11/1/23 at 1:59 pm to BilbeauTBaggins
Good, my middle school son needs his cotton candy vape.
Posted on 11/1/23 at 2:13 pm to BilbeauTBaggins
Vaping is a lot better for health than smoking tobacco.
Posted on 11/1/23 at 2:15 pm to BilbeauTBaggins
If the members of the "Louisiana Convenience and Vape Store Association" would not sell to underage minors, we would not have an issue.
The number of middle school and high school kids with vapes tells me the retailers aren't even trying to enforce the age law.
The number of middle school and high school kids with vapes tells me the retailers aren't even trying to enforce the age law.
Posted on 11/1/23 at 2:16 pm to BilbeauTBaggins
Vape shops are one of the fastest growing and most unnecessary things in America.
Posted on 11/1/23 at 2:16 pm to Auburn1968
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Vaping is a lot better for health than smoking tobacco.
But it's not. The chemicals that allow the vape product to vaporize are pretty awful for you. Popcorn lung is a real thing.
People who vape are not only inhaling an arse ton more nicotine, but they're also inhaling much more frequently than they would any tobacco product. They're all pretty bad for you.
Posted on 11/1/23 at 2:16 pm to LSUFanHouston
Prob buying them online. Does the new law ban online sales?
Posted on 11/1/23 at 2:18 pm to BilbeauTBaggins
Vaping has done more to get people off cigarettes than any other mitigation (nicotine gum, patches, etc.) out there.
bUt WhAt AbOuT tHe ChIlDrEn is normally a horrible reason for yet another law aimed at saving us from ourselves.
bUt WhAt AbOuT tHe ChIlDrEn is normally a horrible reason for yet another law aimed at saving us from ourselves.
Posted on 11/1/23 at 2:18 pm to BilbeauTBaggins
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He called the legislation a response to “a nationwide vape usage epidemic within the most vulnerable of our citizens—our youth.”
But it’s already illegal for minors to purchase them
Posted on 11/1/23 at 2:20 pm to yellowfin
It's all bullshite. The law allows the sell of FDA approved vapes and cigarettes of course. All the FDA approved vapes are put out by the tobacco companies. Big tobacco wants their business back and obviously is greasing some palms to get it.
Posted on 11/1/23 at 2:22 pm to justaniceguy
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It’s quite odd that Juul and the other companies can’t sell flavored cartridge vapes (and they still sell the menthol and tobacco flavors at circle k) but there are hundreds if not thousands of smaller companies selling flavored disposable vapes in every sketchy gas station (the ones that actually would sell to an underaged kid) in america.
It’s because the law was written to punish Juul and not actually solve a problem.
The law bans flavored cartridges, but if it’s a single use or disposable device it’s fine.
Which is why the sketchy vape shops sell the “disposable” vapes the side of a cell phone with one huge unreliable cartridge
This post was edited on 11/1/23 at 2:24 pm
Posted on 11/1/23 at 2:23 pm to boxcarbarney
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Vaping has done more to get people off cigarettes than any other mitigation (nicotine gum, patches, etc.) out there.
True, but is vaping actually any better for you? The stuff in those vapes is really bad.
At least tobacco is, somewhat, natural.
Posted on 11/1/23 at 2:23 pm to chryso
Posted on 11/1/23 at 2:24 pm to LSUFanHouston
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If the members of the "Louisiana Convenience and Vape Store Association" would not sell to underage minors, we would not have an issue.
The number of middle school and high school kids with vapes tells me the retailers aren't even trying to enforce the age law.
Those kids are either ordering the vape stuff online or getting them from the Discount Zone down the street. Lots of places sell vape products that aren't vape stores.
Just like when we would buy a pack of smokes when we were kids, it was at the local convenience store, not the Tinder Box in Lakeside mall.
Posted on 11/1/23 at 2:24 pm to BilbeauTBaggins
Keep it. Vaping makes it easy to identify trashy people
Posted on 11/1/23 at 2:25 pm to BilbeauTBaggins
Why stop at flavored vapes? Are they gonna ban flavored vodka and seltzers, etc next? Tired of government overreach.
Posted on 11/1/23 at 2:26 pm to justaniceguy
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Either both kinds should be banned or none should.
None should. It’s absolutely bullshite. Do parents have no responsibilities?
Posted on 11/1/23 at 2:28 pm to LSUFanHouston
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The stuff in those vapes is really bad.
What stuff? Most vape juices have three main ingredients: Nicotine, glycerin, and propylene glycol which is used in a number of food, cosmetic and pharmacy processes. Then add in whatever flavorings are needed.
Let's take a look at what they're putting in modern cigarettes:
Acetone—found in nail polish remover
Acetic acid—an ingredient in hair dye
Ammonia—a common household cleaner
Arsenic—used in rat poison
Benzene—found in rubber cement and gasoline
Butane—used in lighter fluid
Cadmium—active component in battery acid
Carbon monoxide—released in car exhaust fumes
Formaldehyde—embalming fluid
Hexamine—found in barbecue lighter fluid
Lead—used in batteries
Naphthalene—an ingredient in mothballs
Methanol—a main component in rocket fuel
Nicotine—used as an insecticide
Tar—material for paving roads
Toluene—used to manufacture paint
Which one looks better to you?
This post was edited on 11/1/23 at 2:29 pm
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