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Posted on 11/9/18 at 11:05 am to Areddishfish
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My mom died when I was 16 and I still graduated with a 3.8
all gpa's are not created equal these days, you could take all AP and honors courses and challenge yourself at a difficult school and get a 3.2 or you could go to a shitty school that artificially inflates GPA and take all standard classes and get a 4.0
Posted on 11/9/18 at 11:08 am to Parmen
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The University admitted 433 students who did not meet the required GPA or ACT scores this fall
What are the requirements? They don't seem to be listed anywhere on the Admissions page. When you go to the "Requirements" page, they just put ranges for ACT or SAT scores. And GPA ranges aren't even listed.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 11:09 am to Picayuner
1) how many are paying full out of state tuition
2) how many can run 4.4 forties?
2) how many can run 4.4 forties?
Posted on 11/9/18 at 11:13 am to Parmen
If you admit them, you want them to eventually get a degree.
Back in the old days with open admission, those that were flunking out had no business being in college.
They fixed that when they put the minimum requirements in.
There should be exceptions for hardships or other unusual circumstances and as long as your balancing that, those kids are going to come and likely get degrees as well.
College is not for everyone. And for some, college might be for later in life when they mature some more.
Back in the old days with open admission, those that were flunking out had no business being in college.
They fixed that when they put the minimum requirements in.
There should be exceptions for hardships or other unusual circumstances and as long as your balancing that, those kids are going to come and likely get degrees as well.
College is not for everyone. And for some, college might be for later in life when they mature some more.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 11:13 am to Parmen
Were these diversity admits or political favors?
Posted on 11/9/18 at 11:20 am to UpToPar
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The idea that you have to go to college to lead a successful life needs to die. These kids are going to end up in mounds of debt and end up dropping out or with a worthless degree and no ability to find a job in their field.
There are many degrees at LSU that are just fricking kids over by even offering them. Now, if they kid and their family is stupid enough to actually spend their money to receive a useless degree, maybe they deserve to be poor forever.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 11:21 am to Parmen
We call this “ The Pimp Jr Exception” at my house.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 11:22 am to fallguy_1978
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Probably to fill some sort of diversity requirement.
Haha blame the black people. I’m sure there’s just as many dumbass white trash people who go to LSU just to party and frick off. Not everything is the black mans fault
Posted on 11/9/18 at 11:31 am to fallguy_1978
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Probably to fill some sort of diversity requirement
Yeah without that breakdown it really is pointless to talk about it, unless they broke some kind of overall hard rule to do it. As they just hide it under the non-specific "hardship" reasoning.
7.5% does seem high though, so i'm sure some athletes are in there. Could be a way for a school to hide these needs for athletes. Especially since it helps the diversity #s.
I do think that "pushing kids thru" hurts the overal product of the education, and kids long term. If they cant hack it in HS on both measures then they get washed out. Go the CC route first. As these kids wash out then the school looks at that, and has to adjust the education part too to try not to have high wash out rates. Ie...the TX 10% Rule.
I doubt lsu is the only one that does this, so not sure why the OP is all "lsu you poors and dumb" other than being a turd.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 11:32 am to fallguy_1978
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Probably to fill some sort of diversity requirement.
Without a doubt.
There aren’t enough qualified minority candidates for everyone to hit their targeted quotas.
And the drop out rates will be high, because LSU is taking people who aren’t qualified, and who will struggle as a consequence.
This is on the perverse consequences of AA, it doesn’t actually benefit marginal candidates. They get offers from schools they’re not qualified to attend, and they accept these offers, only to drop out later. They would be mor successful if they attended less rigorous schools, where they would actually thrive.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 11:41 am to rowbear1922
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It would be very interesting to see the demographics.
The fact this wasn't released tells you all you need to know.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 11:45 am to michael corleone
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Out of state—-more money for out of state tuition. Dollars are driving the decision.
Tuition is subsidized and even with the out of state fee it doesn't meet the actual cost of enrollment. LSU may gain but the state loses.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 11:47 am to OKTGR580
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Haha blame the black people. I’m sure there’s just as many dumbass white trash people who go to LSU just to party and frick off. Not everything is the black mans fault
Who blamed anyone? One of the replies was from someone that used to work in Enrollment and confirmed that's exactly what goes on here. In my opinion it's just a stupid policy.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 11:47 am to CarrolltonTiger
A lot of people get degrees that have nothing to do with where they end up in life. A degree is a degree and most of the time you are better off having one over the length of your work career.
I'm not saying you can go be an engineer without an eng degree but with a general business degree you can do a lot of things.
I'm not saying you can go be an engineer without an eng degree but with a general business degree you can do a lot of things.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 12:01 pm to ConfusedHawgInMO
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There is nothing wrong with a 21 ACT and 2.9 GPA. It's not like those are anywhere close to failing scores.
That's like what, a few Cs and maybe a D or two strung along through all of high school?
There probably a bunch of people who hover around those levels who started off school very poorly and then worked their asses off to raise their grades. Or maybe there was just one certain subject that always drags them down.
Many times I saw people who had to work hard to overcome poor initial high school grades become excellent college students while kids who everything came easy to in HS crashed and burned b/c they had never faced any sort of failure and had no idea how to work their way out of it.
This post was edited on 11/9/18 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 11/9/18 at 12:01 pm to Parmen
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LSU's requirements to get in are already easy.
Considering you went there, obviously.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 12:14 pm to CobraCommander83
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Please explain.
I think I understand the sentiment. I knew I wasn't ready for college when I graduated. I had a low ACT score so I joined the Army. Spent four years active and began taking community college classes on base and began to realize college (school in general) was attainable.
I think lowering the bar to entry is the wrong path.
This post was edited on 11/9/18 at 8:18 pm
Posted on 11/9/18 at 12:15 pm to Parmen
quote:That's actually way higher than I imagined the student aflete might score.
The exceptions had a 21.3 average ACT score and an average GPA of 2.9.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 12:22 pm to Parmen
When I was at LSU the requirement to get in as a freshman was a 21 on ACT or 2.0 with 24 hrs as a transfer.
you have to be a millennial
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you clearly don't need to be in college
you have to be a millennial
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