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Male Marine vs Female Marine pugil sticks

Posted on 6/25/23 at 9:05 am
Posted by SemperFiDawg
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Posted on 6/25/23 at 9:05 am
GI Jane my arse
This post was edited on 6/25/23 at 5:46 pm
Posted by Hangover Haven
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Posted on 6/25/23 at 9:09 am to
Your link is screwy
This post was edited on 6/25/23 at 9:35 am
Posted by udtiger
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Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 6/25/23 at 9:12 am to
Guy couldn't win.

If he took it easy on her at all, he'd be putting future Marines in danger because she (and her commander) would have an artificial idea of her abilities.

If he goes hard (which he did) all he did was beat up a girl.

What sucks is how the instructors clearly jumped his shite after the first encounter. Maybe that was not the proper technique for the exercise and that's why, but if it's just because ot wasn't sporting, that's bullshite.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
17749 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 9:30 am to
Women are not a combat multiplier.


Marine Corps Times
Posted by SpotCheckBilly
Member since May 2020
7490 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 9:39 am to
If she was in an actual combat scenario, would the enemy soldier go hard against her, or easy?
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
6910 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 9:40 am to
Equal rights, equal fights.

Dude did exactly the right thing.
This post was edited on 6/25/23 at 9:42 am
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
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Posted on 6/25/23 at 9:40 am to
You are racist and transphobic
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Posted on 6/25/23 at 9:41 am to
quote:

What sucks is how the instructors clearly jumped his shite after the first encounter.

Very true - the guy should’ve beat the shite out of her and then told her to get in the kitchen where she belongs
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
6910 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 9:43 am to
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What sucks is how the instructors clearly jumped his shite after the first encounter.

I disagree with you here. The point was made and it was made decisively. No need to let her be injured if they could prevent it.

Edited to add - referring to them quickly stopping the fight, not any possible correcting of his actions afterwards which seems to be what some people think I meant. In pugil stick fights in the Marines, typically, the round is over when one of the fighters scores a killing strike, which he obviously did.
This post was edited on 6/25/23 at 12:44 pm
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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52916 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 9:50 am to
quote:

The point was made and it was made decisively. No need to let her be injured if they could prevent it
I hope that happens in combat
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
35398 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 9:56 am to
Conservative and GOP politicians are such pussies by not making this a bigger issue because they are afraid of losing votes from women. They won't lose any. All the women who have husbands, sons and brothers in the armed forces don't want women in combat roles. They know it puts their loved ones in danger.
Posted by BlueRunner
Member since Nov 2022
754 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 10:11 am to
Imagine having something happen to you and then having to depend on a woman in full gear to pick you up and carry you out to safety. If these people were the OT, they wouldn't get carried out by the buffest of men, but still.
Posted by G I Jeaux
off duty
Member since Aug 2009
2366 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 10:58 am to
ANYONE who did not already know this is a fool or has an IQ of less the 50.
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 6/25/23 at 11:05 am to
quote:

I disagree with you here. The point was made and it was made decisively. No need to let her be injured if they could prevent it.


It wasn't that they stopped him (even though he looked to be stopping on his own), it was that they seemed to be reading him the riot act for treating the initial confrontation in a realistic manner (which is what you're supposed to do). Their doing that gives the impression that they expect females to be treated more delicately than males (ie: two different sets of requirements, while simultaneously saying such different requirements don't exist).
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21389 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 11:34 am to
quote:

he goes hard (which he did) all he did was beat up a girl.


If she wasn't a marine, I would totally agree with you.

However, as they are probably in the same unit, I have no problem with her getting pummeled, often, if only to show
1)Women don't belong in combat arms
2)If she is going to stay in the same unit, she should expect similar results until she gets better. If this happened in combat the results would be much much worse.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21389 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 11:36 am to
quote:

disagree with you here. The point was made and it was made decisively. No need to let her be injured if they could prevent it.

I totally disagree here. Better for her to suffer here than in combat.

What's the point of this training if they take it easy?
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Member since Feb 2008
21627 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 11:40 am to
She doesn’t belong there but men in society have failed women by allowing them to think that is what equality looks like.

Men and women are not the same.
This post was edited on 6/25/23 at 11:41 am
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
6910 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 12:36 pm to
quote:

I totally disagree here. Better for her to suffer here than in combat.

The point was made whether she suffers a life altering injury or not. The training value of her getting hurt badly is zero. The value of this incident is demonstrating how utterly outmatched women are against men. Unfortunately, the cowardly Marine three and four stars don't care how many women are injured in the pointless pursuit of women being equal to appease the politicians.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Member since Feb 2005
60766 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 12:39 pm to
Wait, wait, wait. Hold the phone. You mean to tell me that there is a difference in between men and women?


Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
6910 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 12:41 pm to
quote:

it was that they seemed to be reading him the riot act for treating the initial confrontation in a realistic manner

Nothing I see in this video indicates he is being read the riot act or even being corrected. If anything, I can almost guarantee you that these dudes are all about it. They do stop the fight, but they stopped it the same way pugil stick fights are always stopped, which is when a fighter scores a "killing" strike. They would have stopped it the same way if it had been two male Marines.
This post was edited on 6/25/23 at 12:41 pm
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