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Memorial Hospital after Katrina

Posted on 1/13/25 at 2:58 am
Posted by Dex Morgan
Member since Nov 2022
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 2:58 am
Why wasn't the National Guard blamed for the dead patients? They only showed up after five days of absolutely horrific conditions and only gave a few hours notice of a mandatory evacuation. They forced a lady to abandon her dying mother at gunpoint. They were going to leave behind anyone confined to their bed to suffer and die alone. What Dr Anna Pou did was the only compassionate option. Would you have wanted your loved one to die alone and in unimaginable agony?

God doesn't like ugly. The National Guard that evacuated Memorial and the corrupt state officials that charged Anna Pou are vile and I hope they find no peace during the rest of their lives. They have no idea the hell those medical staff and patients went through for five days with no help from anyone.
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
34533 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 3:27 am to
It’s a shame, more than a shame really, that She was the fall guy in such a hopeless situation. There was never gonna be a way to save everyone. She did what she thought was best.

It’s a miracle thanks to her and the staff that even more didn’t die. But of course that part isn’t celebrated and they weren’t deemed heroes but instead the scapegoat of a no-win situation
Posted by cbdman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2015
1236 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 3:44 am to
Tenet
Posted by Dex Morgan
Member since Nov 2022
2627 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 3:53 am to
Tenet made plenty of errors but they're not the ones who forced doctors and nurses to abandon the patients at gunpoint.
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
28684 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 3:58 am to
I mean... She's still practicing.

She did my mother's thyroidectomy if I remember correctly.

Only thing I remember about her is she has shark eyes. You don't see very many women with those kind of eyes.
Posted by BruslyTiger
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Member since Oct 2003
4717 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 4:50 am to
The national guard could have rolled in there with a couple of dozen Deuce and a halfs and evacuated everyone that needed to be pulled out.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
92399 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 5:28 am to
This year will see a lot of remembrances as it will be the 20-year mark.

The only thing I can offer is that it was such an unprecedented event, from an infrastructure standpoint, that terrible decisions that I (a lowly middle manager) criticized at the time, even if reversed, might not have made much difference.
This post was edited on 1/13/25 at 5:29 am
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
67827 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 5:29 am to
quote:

This year will see a lot of remembrances as it will be the 20-year mark.


I’d rather forget most of it.
Posted by TulaneLSU
Member since Aug 2003
Member since Dec 2007
13595 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 5:33 am to
Friend,

Do no harm.

Yours,
TulaneLSU
Posted by TT9
Global warming
Member since Sep 2008
86160 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 5:35 am to
Very much looking forward to your restaurant reviews sir.
Posted by Dex Morgan
Member since Nov 2022
2627 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 5:37 am to
Leaving someone who is sick and immobile to die alone with no water, food, power, and air conditioning is far more harmful than giving them morphine and making them comfortable before you were forced out at gunpoint.
Posted by TulaneLSU
Member since Aug 2003
Member since Dec 2007
13595 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 5:52 am to
Friend,

By your apologetic tone and word choices, it would appear that you may have a bias in this case. There were valid and persuasive reasons the Louisiana Justice Department, despite public criticism and outside pressure not to do so, brought criminal charges against those who delivered a lethal dose of morphine to patients entrusted to their care.

They were not forced to leave at gunpoint. I am unsure where you heard this untruth, but you should stop repeating it. Ask yourself why zero of the other hospitals in New Orleans, facing similar circumstances, did not have a similar outcome with their patients.

LINK is worth reading.

Yours,
TulaneLSU
This post was edited on 1/13/25 at 6:48 am
Posted by Gee Grenouille
Bogalusa
Member since Jul 2018
6648 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 6:01 am to
Just a terrible situation all around.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
55601 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 6:10 am to
quote:


I mean... She's still practicing.


I don't think she is anymore but was up until a few years ago.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
92399 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 6:17 am to
quote:

The only thing I can offer


Well, I can offer one more thing:

For any of you judging anyone involved (and certainly there were a range of failures at every level of the response - that is not in doubt, just that Dr. Pou and "The National Guard" - whatever that means - have been specifically mentioned), I just ask that you do so considering the New Orleans area, particularly the city and St. Bernard Parish, must rightly have been considered under "wartime" conditions, certainly from the time the storm passed until sometime in November/December, at a minimum. Certainly folks who were there know what I'm saying. If you were not there, it is difficult to find words to adequately describe it.

At a certain point, morality is morality, but if you are faulting folks for ethical or professional lapses, please consider the conditions they were under. That's all.
Posted by Dandaman
Louisiana
Member since May 2017
765 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:17 am to
Exactly. Hindsight is 20/20, but Hindsight with a good night's rest, proper nutrition and zero adrenaline is even more sharp.

The decision making that occurred with days of no sleep and physical and mental fatigue was probably better than what most doctors could have done in similar circumstances.
Posted by HouseMom
Member since Jun 2020
1381 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:41 am to
quote:

Why wasn't the National Guard blamed for the dead patients?


Because that would be insane. Katrina was a dumpster fire of epic proportions on all fronts. Orders were coming from every direction with everyone wanting jurisdiction. As soon as one problem was fixed, another would start. And if the guard didn't show up to the hospital for 5 days, it was because a crew didn't receive orders to do so.

I can assure you the LA National Guard had boots on the ground and in the air doing rescue/recovery before the winds died down. I happen to know a lot of people who were involved in this effort, and many report it was often worse than their time in Iraq or Afghanistan. It was truly a logistical nightmare.

Also, transporting just one critical care patient is a huge ordeal. Many of these patients were very ill and bed-bound, and first you have to actually get the up the STAIRS to the roof (no electricity for the elevator). You're talking about putting hospital gurneys (at a minimum wheelchairs) and associated equipment in a helicopter along with medical crew to tend to the patient en route to a nearby hospital (which those were also full, by the way). Many were routed to LSU's Bernie Moore to land because they set up a makeshift hospital in the PMAC.

And, the hospital system actually moved many of those patients TO Memorial to ride out the hurricane instead of a city outside of harm's way. Maybe place some of the blame on them.
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
49028 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:51 am to
quote:

I don't think she is anymore but was up until a few years ago.


Anna retired several years ago.
Posted by Techdog89
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2016
927 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:54 am to
I'm a little biased here because Dr. Pou operated successfully on my step-daughter who had cancer right before Katrina. She was wonderful then and through the years as my step-daughter recovered and dealt with new challenges. But, Dr. Pou was target by the then A.G. Foti as a scapegoat for the problems in the evacuation that led to the deaths of several critically ill patients. The environment and the necessary method of evacuation led to those deaths, not the caregivers. Her team attested to this in court. Only when seen in the exact environment of excessive heat, darkness, lack of power, sewer issues and people trying to get into the hospital to break into the pharmacy for drugs, can you begin to understand what Dr. Pou and the hospital staff went through. Did any of you know that she was actually off then and went in to help her patients? She could have evacuated with her family but chose to stay for her patients. She was a saint to those in her care. Her staff and those present attested to this. If she has retired, I wish her a quiet and peaceful retirement that is well deserved. Thank you Dr. Pou!
Posted by johnnydrama
Possibly Trashy
Member since Feb 2010
8950 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 10:03 am to
quote:

A.G. Foti


a-hole killed his own career. The people of Louisiana sided with Dr. Pou and threw his arse out of office.
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