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re: Motor Trend list most reliable used trucks available - Toyota, Chevrolet, and GMC dominate

Posted on 10/24/23 at 9:06 am to
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
15312 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 9:06 am to
Have a 2017 F150 with the 5.0 V8. Right at 120k miles and not a lick of trouble with that truck. Routine maintenance and that’s it. I had 3 Silverados prior and they all were constantly nickel and diming me with problems.
Posted by SpotCheckBilly
Member since May 2020
7489 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 9:06 am to
I have an 04 Tundra with over 310k on it. Everything works and I've only done routine maintenance on it. My mechanic says he has another customer with the same truck who is nearing 500k and I have talked to other Tundra owners with similar vintage Tundras that were nearing the 500k mark.
Posted by A Smoke Break
Lafayette
Member since Nov 2018
2175 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 9:07 am to
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Where is the data?


The 350k miles on my tacoma and just having to do routine basic care.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
20819 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 9:14 am to
My tahoe is a piece of shite.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32570 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 9:20 am to
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The Ram 2013 5.7L “Hemi” was another great motor for me. 260k miles without any work at all



The Hemi V8 has turned into a good engine. The issues they have are widely known and fairly easy to fix. It's a shame that they are killing it off slowly.

The Nissan 5.6L V8 is also an under rated motor. Horrible gas mileage, but good power and it has become reliable after they worked out most of the issues with the Titan pickup, which is also getting canceled soon.

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The GM 5.3L V8 might be the best motor I’ve ever owned. I put 309k miles on an 07 Yukon. Loved that vehicle


That's a good motor. I had one from 2007/2008 in a Silverado that burned about a quart of oil between changes after about 160,000 miles. It annoyed me but that was the only issue on an otherwise bulletproof truck. I think it was paired to a 4L80E transmission, which I had flushed every 60,000 miles. That was probably the best vehicle we've ever had.

I miss that truck - it costs me about $29,000 15 years ago. A new one in that configuration would be at least $50,000. That old truck would be underpowered and inefficient by 2023 standards though. The new ones come with more horsepower, better intake setup, better fuel injection setup, and a 10 speed automatic. Even their little base 2.7L Turbomax engine puts out more power and better MPG than my old 2007 model V8.

If I were getting another Silverado now I would try to get the 3.0L Duramax diesel. That's a cherry of a motor if you are okay with the additional diesel maintenance down the line. You can get 30 mpg highway in the "old man spec" two wheel drive trucks easily. I can put up with DEF fluid and an eventual oil pump belt replacement for that.

It's kind of crazy how fast things are moving now. If you designed a new engine today, it would be fundamentally obsolete within 15 years. Not in a way that could be addressed with just a simple update either. I'm betting that we'll see 2.0L turbo four bangers with battery electric hybrid motors that has more system output than a HEMI V8 has today.

I think the 2.3L Ford, 2.5L Toyota, and 2.7L General Motors turbo 4 cylinders are the near term future...like it or not. They'll amp up the power with electric motors if needed. I know GM is about to introduce a new line of V8 engines for their trucks and Ford is about to update the Ecoboost V6 motors, but I doubt they can keep them around in that form more than more 10 years before they can't meet emissions anymore.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32570 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 9:21 am to
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Have a 2017 F150 with the 5.0 V8.


The 5.0L Ford V8 was solid until they added all that stupid injection pump and cylinder deactivation bullshite in 2020 - then a bunch of pandemic parts that had a lot of internal issues for several years. Your 2017 model also avoided the catastrophic 10 speed automatic that Ford has right now.

IMO the 2019 F-150 was the high water mark for half ton Ford trucks of the 21st century. Not too many issues with them other than the transmission (usually under warranty) and really crappy headlights in the lower end models. I also love the styling of that truck too.

If you must have a brand new F-150 - check the prices on the 2024 model. The most substantial changes Ford made this year were to the price - so try to get a 2023 model instead. They cut configurations and reduced content, but jacked up the price for 2024. And I would strongly consider the 2.7L turbo V6 motor from them over the others - that's probably the most reliable, most efficient half ton engine from Ford. I do like the 5.0L V8.

But if you are not loyal to a particular brand/dealer, I'd go with the diesel Silverado/Sierra or the new Tundra over the F-150. And the Ram pickup is already on sale in a lot of markets. Nissan's Titan is also comparatively affordable if you can find a new one.
This post was edited on 10/24/23 at 10:29 am
Posted by mwlewis
JeffCo
Member since Nov 2010
21485 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 9:36 am to
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I'm shocked the Ford 3v Triton V8 didn't make the list. They can last tens of thousands of miles sometimes w

That piece of shite engine is what made me switch to GM.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
14938 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 9:38 am to
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Ford 3v Triton V8

A legendary piece of shite. Not sure if i hate it of the 6.0 more.
Posted by jrodLSUke
Premium
Member since Jan 2011
24381 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 9:45 am to
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My tahoe is a piece of shite.

I have a 2016 with over $125k. Never had an issue and was a better deal than anything Toyota had to offer.
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
18885 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 9:47 am to
GM transmission will detonate prematurely
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
20819 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 9:48 am to
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I have a 2016 with over $125k. Never had an issue and was a better deal than anything Toyota had to offer.


I have a 2021 with 45k miles on it. It has had at least 3 recalls, I have had to replace the third row, my amplifier is currently going out and there is a rattle in the back that I can't find.

Piece of shite.
This post was edited on 10/24/23 at 9:52 am
Posted by SpotCheckBilly
Member since May 2020
7489 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 9:51 am to
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IMO the 2019 F-150 was the high water mark for half ton 4 trucks of the 21st century. Not too many issues with them other than the transmission (usually under warranty) and really crappy headlights in the lower end models. I also love the styling of that truck too.


"other than the transmission?"

I would consider replacing the transmission to be kind of a big deal, and a common thing I hear from F-250 owners. I do like the styling and the ride of those trucks.
Posted by mcpotiger
Missouri
Member since Mar 2005
8198 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 9:52 am to
I had the inaugural year (2004) with that flaming POS! Awful!
Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
10786 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 9:53 am to
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The only thing worse than that Ford V8 is every Powerstroke diesel made since they killed off the old 7.3 Liter engine. Ford truck loyalists are stuck in a weird, abusive relationship with that company.


Ford makes their diesel Powerstrokes in Mexico. No fricking thanks.
Ram puts leaf springs in their 3/4 ton diesels.

I use diesel trucks for hauling heavy trailers, not commuting to work. I wouldn't buy anything but a Duramax right now.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
38080 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 9:58 am to
Hopefully the 2023 Tundras keep up the reliability with the new motor. I have a 2023, 15K miles, with no issues so far. First time I've ever owned a Toyota.
Posted by h0bnail
Member since Sep 2009
7585 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 9:59 am to
Why are they looking at 3 year old trucks?
Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
10786 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 10:02 am to
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Why are they looking at 3 year old trucks?


How in the frick are you going to determine reliability in a current year model that's barely hit 10k?
Posted by weptiger
Georgia
Member since Feb 2007
11197 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 10:07 am to
We have three (3) Chevy trucks in the family:

- 2020 Colorado
- 2016 Silverado 1500
- 2022 Silverado 2500

All great, reliable truck products. Also have a 2015 Suburban that we have driven all around the country on long trips with >150K miles.
Posted by h0bnail
Member since Sep 2009
7585 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 10:10 am to
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How in the frick are you going to determine reliability in a current year model that's barely hit 10k?


I was thinking the other direction. How shitty are trucks now that failures are high enough to document within 3 years?
This post was edited on 10/24/23 at 10:12 am
Posted by bird35
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
13065 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 10:13 am to
I don’t care about what 2020 trucks are still reliable.

I want to know how the trucks from 2010 are doing.

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