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NY Times - First time in modern American history, more young Christian men than women

Posted on 9/30/24 at 7:42 am
Posted by LSU Grad Alabama Fan
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Posted on 9/30/24 at 7:42 am
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Church membership has been dropping in the United States for years. But within Gen Z, almost 40 percent of women now describe themselves as religiously unaffiliated, compared with 34 percent of men, according to a survey last year of more than 5,000 Americans by the Survey Center on American Life at the American Enterprise Institute.

In every other age group, men were more likely to be unaffiliated.



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The men and women of Gen Z are also on divergent trajectories in almost every facet of their lives, including education, sexuality and spirituality.



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Young women are still spiritual and seeking, according to surveys of religious life. But they came of age as the #MeToo movement opened a national conversation about sexual harassment and gender-based abuse, which inspired widespread exposures of abuse in church settings under the hashtag #ChurchToo. And the overturning of Roe v. Wade in 2022 compelled many of them to begin paying closer attention to reproductive rights.

Young men have different concerns. They are less educated than their female peers. In major cities, including New York and Washington, they earn less.


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About two-thirds of women ages 18 to 29 say that “most churches and religious congregations” do not treat men and women equally, the Survey Center on American Life found.


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Opening more official roles to women, though, may not win them back: Many of the largest liberal denominations that ordain women are in steep decline.



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Inside the World of Gen Z
The generation of people born between 1997 and 2012 is changing fashion, culture, politics, the workplace and more.
For the first time in modern American history, young men are now more religious than their female peers. They attend services more often and are more likely to identify as religious.

Many of Harvard’s Generation Z say “sellout” is not an insult, instead it appears to mean something strikingly corporate-minded.

A younger generation of crossword constructors is using an old form to reflect their identities, language and world. Here’s how Gen Z made the puzzle their own.

For many Gen-Zers without much disposable income, Facebook isn’t a place to socialize online — it’s where they can get deals on items they wouldn’t normally be able to afford.

Dating apps are struggling to live up to investors’ expectations. Blame the members of Generation Z, who are often not willing to shell out for paid subscriptions.

Young people tend to lean more liberal on issues pertaining to relationship norms. But when it comes to dating, the idea that men should pay in heterosexual courtships still prevails among Gen Z-ers.




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Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 9/30/24 at 7:44 am to
In related news, more women are whores
Posted by MyRockstarComplex
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Posted on 9/30/24 at 7:45 am to
It is going to be weird when the tables turn on females being selective breeders.
Posted by CamdenTiger
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Posted on 9/30/24 at 7:46 am to
All planned destruction… x
Posted by Rex Feral
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Posted on 9/30/24 at 7:46 am to
How would you describe women?


Posted by SCLibertarian
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Posted on 9/30/24 at 7:54 am to
Following Christ requires one to be accountable for his or her actions, something Western women have no interest in.
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 9/30/24 at 7:55 am to
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Church membership has been dropping in the United States for years.

Hey, what a coincidence. So has American family structures and norms.
Posted by Odysseus32
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Posted on 9/30/24 at 7:56 am to
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Following Christ requires one to be accountable for his or her actions, something Western women have no interest in.


I always got the impression that following christ meant I could sin and then use the excuse that we are all imperfect children of Jesus or some other horseshite as to not take accountability.
This post was edited on 9/30/24 at 7:56 am
Posted by SCLibertarian
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Posted on 9/30/24 at 7:58 am to
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I always got the impression that following christ meant I could sin and then use the excuse that we are all imperfect children on Jesus or some other horseshite as to not take accountability.

This is what modern Christianity has been reduced to. A Tony Robbins seminar with a musical concert, a coffee bar and free childcare.
Posted by StringedInstruments
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Posted on 9/30/24 at 8:00 am to
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Young women are still spiritual and seeking, according to surveys of religious life. But they came of age as the #MeToo movement opened a national conversation about sexual harassment and gender-based abuse, which inspired widespread exposures of abuse in church settings under the hashtag #ChurchToo. And the overturning of Roe v. Wade in 2022 compelled many of them to begin paying closer attention to reproductive rights.


Was this part of the survey or bullshite The NY Times added? Either way, it’s bullshite.

Women are less religious because they live in a third wave feminist society that empowers them to be sexually promiscuous, materialistic, and independent, though that independence is heavily subsidized by the labor of men who built the systems and infrastructures they take advantage of.

Why learn humility when you’re supposed to buy $8 coffees while traveling the world to post pictures of yourself in SHEIN try on hauls? All while licking the drool of desperately thirsty men who never should have known you exist in the first place?
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 9/30/24 at 8:01 am to
I know many will just fall back on the “lol whores” angle, but most religions are fairly overtly patriarchal by design. Now, I’m not making a value judgment on whether that’s good/bad/right/wrong, but once you remove (most of) the social stigma that would come from refusing to belong to the local religion, young women are probably going to be less interested in a religion that, for example, tells them that they may not teach men and should instead remain silent, than young men will. Not exactly rocket surgery.
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 9/30/24 at 8:01 am to
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This is what modern Protestantism has been reduced to.


FIFY.

That's not to say the Catholic, Orthodox, and Coptic churches don't have their problems. However, mainline Protestant denominations are falling apart due to schisms involving modernity while the evangelical movement is becoming less popular due to your latter point.
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 9/30/24 at 8:14 am to
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I know many will just fall back on the “lol whores” angle, but most religions are fairly overtly patriarchal by design. Now, I’m not making a value judgment on whether that’s good/bad/right/wrong, but once you remove (most of) the social stigma that would come from refusing to belong to the local religion, young women are probably going to be less interested in a religion that, for example, tells them that they may not teach men and should instead remain silent, than young men will. Not exactly rocket surgery.


I had to distance myself from an extremely close long-time friend for this very reason. He often used religion as a means to prop up men over women.

Would always talk poorly of women and how they were an inferior sex. I disagreed with him and we usually left the conversation at that. He started spouting off to the point it seemed like bait. Eventually it was to the point it was disrespectful to my wife, his wife, and all the women in both of our lives.

I had to have a really hard reflection on our friendship. I thought about if I had a daughter what she would think about me when she was old enough to understand his philosophy, knowing that I viewed him as one of my best friends. I came to the conclusion that we had grown apart too much and the issue was too important to ignore any longer.
Posted by LSU Grad Alabama Fan
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Posted on 9/30/24 at 8:16 am to
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I know many will just fall back on the “lol whores” angle, but most religions are fairly overtly patriarchal by design. Now, I’m not making a value judgment on whether that’s good/bad/right/wrong, but once you remove (most of) the social stigma that would come from refusing to belong to the local religion, young women are probably going to be less interested in a religion that, for example, tells them that they may not teach men and should instead remain silent, than young men will. Not exactly rocket surgery.


Explain this.

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Opening more official roles to women, though, may not win them back: Many of the largest liberal denominations that ordain women are in steep decline.
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
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Posted on 9/30/24 at 8:19 am to
They’ll all run back to the church when they’re about 35 and think “if only I had this guidance when I was younger”.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 9/30/24 at 8:19 am to
Women replaced religion with social justice.

Its their driving moral code.
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 9/30/24 at 8:20 am to
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Explain this.

Changing practices doesn't inherently change dogma. The Bible says what it says. If the Bible isn't the divinely inspired infallible word of god, Christianity doesn't have a claim of primacy over any other religion. As the article noted, women still have very high levels of "seeking" spirituality; they simply aren't attracted to Christianity as much as they used to be.
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 9/30/24 at 8:32 am to
Men are responsible to God for what goes on in a home. They are the spiritual lead in a marriage.

I blame the fathers of these women.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Posted on 9/30/24 at 8:36 am to
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Changing practices doesn't inherently change dogma. The Bible says what it says. If the Bible isn't the divinely inspired infallible word of god, Christianity doesn't have a claim of primacy over any other religion. As the article noted, women still have very high levels of "seeking" spirituality; they simply aren't attracted to Christianity as much as they used to be.


They won't like this post.
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 9/30/24 at 8:44 am to
This is the exact shite.

Do you genuinely think this is not insulting to women? How can you say this with women in your life?

Do you think that little of them that they can’t handle themselves and make decisions for themselves? Or do you think so highly of yourself?

Religion, IMO, is for people who were either indoctrinated young or needed the structure, values, and meaning it provides in adult life.
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