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Ram 3500 vs GMC 3500 vs Ford F350

Posted on 9/3/21 at 9:18 am
Posted by Peruviantiger
Member since Nov 2017
95 posts
Posted on 9/3/21 at 9:18 am
Ok OT, I need your advise. My old F250 may have just given up the ghost (determining status today). As a result I may bite the bullet and buy new. I am not a high OT baller so I have to look at the entry level 4wd drw, though I certainly have Champaign taste. The truck will be a work / farm truck for me not a baw status truck.

With that said, I think all three make a sharp looking truck. Ram has IMHO the best diesel but worst tranny, GM has a decent diesel with the best tranny, Ford possibly has the better combination. I am having trouble deciding what direction to go,

So all Ram and GM 3500 and Ford F350 owners what are your thoughts on what you drive and would you recommend your truck. Also, what have been your main repairs?

Thanks in advance. I pray that all that are affected by IDA will have a swift and full recovery (we still have power lines down in my front yard)
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25939 posts
Posted on 9/3/21 at 9:19 am to
Ridgeline
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
29682 posts
Posted on 9/3/21 at 9:19 am to
In before buy a Tundra...
This post was edited on 9/3/21 at 9:20 am
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32569 posts
Posted on 9/3/21 at 9:20 am to
GMC or Ram. Depending on availability.
Posted by DVinBR
Member since Jan 2013
14521 posts
Posted on 9/3/21 at 9:20 am to
Cybertruck
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
14936 posts
Posted on 9/3/21 at 9:21 am to
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So all Ram and GM 3500 and Ford F350 owners what are your thoughts on what you drive and would you recommend your truck. Also, what have been your main repairs?

Each have their issues. Our fleet at work has a couple thousand of each. They all have emissions equipment problems. Pick the one that drives the best for you and has the best styling. My reliability data says they're all within a slim margin of each other.
Posted by Them
Metry
Member since Nov 2008
11268 posts
Posted on 9/3/21 at 9:24 am to
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Pick the one that drives the best for you and has the best styling. My reliability data says they're all within a slim margin of each other.



This. It's not 2002 anymore where there were distinct differences in quality/reliability between the 3. All are excellent trucks now.
Posted by thejudge
Westlake, LA
Member since Sep 2009
14711 posts
Posted on 9/3/21 at 9:27 am to
RAM was rumored to be getting itstransmissions built by ZF out of Germany.

Significant upgrade. Not sure if they are using it yet in the 3500. Worth finding out when you go to the dealer.

quote:

The 8-speed box is rated for vehicles up to 57,000 lbs, and can handle up to 1,000 lb.-ft. of engine torque. It will also bring a number of upgrades over the previous 6-speed as well, including the ability to send 500 lb.-ft. of engine torque to a dual-side PTO system.
Other features of the new ZF 8-speed automatic include adaptive shift mapping, optimized shift comfort, and what ZF describes as automatic powershifting for a 30 percent higher acceleration rate. Thanks to the new dual damper lock-up converter and transmission-mounted oil cooler, the transmission offers notable weight savings over the outgoing unit while offering a 10% increase in fuel efficiency.

This post was edited on 9/3/21 at 9:28 am
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
96465 posts
Posted on 9/3/21 at 9:28 am to
Don’t buy the base model Rams if you’re looking for a work truck they’re pieces of shite

I would get a GMC or Ford
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17156 posts
Posted on 9/3/21 at 9:31 am to
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GM has a decent diesel with the best tranny


The GM Duramax/Allison combo has been consistently more reliable than the Ford products since they stopped making the 7.3L diesel. I do think the Cummins diesel is the best engine of the group though, but I'm less confident in the overall durability of the rest of the Ram truck although I think they've arguably surpassed Ford.

As others have said, all diesels in the US are under strict environmental standards and they are all going to be more costly to maintain than their gas counterparts. I know of far more horror stories with Ford diesels than the others though. To the point where I would probably just stick with gasoline engines if I had to have a Ford product.

My styling preference is the High Country Chevrolet models and the GMC models. I don't like the lower end Chevrolet styling very much.

The Ram also looks good. The higher end models have a nicer interior than the higher end GMC. Their mid grade models are pretty comparable though.

Kind of wish Toyota made a heavier pickup truck for the US market.
This post was edited on 9/3/21 at 9:32 am
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
22356 posts
Posted on 9/3/21 at 9:35 am to
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My old F250

I am not a high OT baller so I have to look at the entry level 4wd drw


I would consider a gas F250 - 2500 IMO. Have your needs changed to justify the upgrade?
Posted by thejudge
Westlake, LA
Member since Sep 2009
14711 posts
Posted on 9/3/21 at 9:36 am to
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To the point where I would probably just stick with gasoline engines if I had to have a Ford product.


My 6.2 has been great. Would buy the 7.3 gasser next.
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
16257 posts
Posted on 9/3/21 at 9:37 am to
Specs on your current f250?
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
Undisclosed Secure Location
Member since Feb 2008
21566 posts
Posted on 9/3/21 at 9:45 am to
Up until the rainbow truck I would have said F-350 now I'm not so sure.

I think they still build the better overall truck (engine, tranny, interior) on total, but I hate recommending them.

Best engine - Cummings (Ram)
Best Interior - Chevy/GMC
Best Tranny - Chevy (Allison)

Ford isn't necessarily the best in any category but close enough second across the board to score the highest.
Posted by RobertFootball
SC
Member since Mar 2021
1337 posts
Posted on 9/3/21 at 10:05 am to
The 3500 RAM’s come with an Aisin transmission now don’t they?
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17156 posts
Posted on 9/3/21 at 10:10 am to
quote:

Ford isn't necessarily the best in any category but close enough second across the board to score the highest.



Not in engine, unless you are talking about the 7.3L gasser. I do like that one.

Their diesels are maintenance and reliability nightmares.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
69893 posts
Posted on 9/3/21 at 10:12 am to
The Mingo-sized Maverick (named after a gotdamt American Hero):

Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36929 posts
Posted on 9/3/21 at 10:13 am to
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I need your advise


Don’t rely on your phone to correct your grammar.









Buy the Dodge. Then the GMC.

If only Ford is available, buy the Tundra.
Posted by Tigerstro2
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2015
316 posts
Posted on 9/3/21 at 10:27 am to
I just recently traded a 2019 F-250 diesel in and bought a GMC 3500 SRW AT4 with the duramax/allison combo. After driving all three I preferred the GMC and Ram. That’s only my personal opinion though. Ram has the best interior but also has the most gadgets to go wrong, but probably has the best ride. Steering and handling hands down for me went to the GMC. Transmission wise I preferred the 10-speed in the GMC. The F-250 I had had a horrible shake after hitting a bump and would sometimes almost throw you across the road due to a horrible jerk in the front end. The Ford did have the most power/acceleration but also the worst ride.

On a side note, when comparing the ride the F-250 and the GMC both had/have 12 ply, load range F tires where the Ram had stock tires. The Ram may not ride as good as the GMC with the same tires.
Posted by Tigerstro2
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2015
316 posts
Posted on 9/3/21 at 10:28 am to
Only if you get the HO Cummins.
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