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re: Robert E. Lee surrendered to Ulysses S. Grant on this day 160 years ago...
Posted on 4/10/25 at 6:21 am to hansenthered1
Posted on 4/10/25 at 6:21 am to hansenthered1
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This would be the start of an era of imperial central government. Still going strong today.
This is the real lasting legacy of the Civil War. A lot of people crap on the notion of states rights, and I know it was not the main cause of the war itself, though it played a significant role. But if you look at the power of the states before the Civil War and contrast that to today, there is no denying the Civil War had a hugely negative impact on the balance of power between the states and federal government as was originally conceived in the constitution.
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Posted on 4/10/25 at 7:44 am to AlonsoWDC
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Grant was not at all an alcoholic.
He actually kinda was. He was definitely a lightweight but he also loved to imbibe. His chief of staff, John Rawlins, helped keep him sober during campaign season and then would supervise binge sessions in the winter months to satiate his appetite for whiskey.
Posted on 4/10/25 at 8:46 pm to RollTide1987
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He actually kinda was. He was definitely a lightweight but he also loved to imbibe. His chief of staff, John Rawlins, helped keep him sober during campaign season and then would supervise binge sessions in the winter months to satiate his appetite for whiskey
Yes he did like to drink. But the rumors of him being drunk on campaign are false. It was during the down times, in winter quarters when his wife and children were gone, when he may have drank a little. While he was on campaign he didn't drink. The lost cause movement invented that myth because for some reason they thought it would sound better that Lee lost to a drunk guy
Posted on 4/10/25 at 9:39 pm to BamaSaint
I understand what you are saying. It's true that he rarely (if ever) drank during campaigns. However, he was an alcoholic and required help from his staff to keep himself sober during campaigns. He would drink in the winter months when nothing was going on, but he indeed was an alcoholic.
Posted on 4/10/25 at 11:27 pm to Darth_Vader
What you talk about really does not begin until 40 years later with the progressives like Dewey, et al who were largely influenced by European progressives mostly out of Germany. But largely the balance begins to change with Wilson, but does not assert itself until Hoover cica 1930, where the Republicans got trounced and Hoover was forced to go along with their policies because of the deepening effects of the Depression
Posted on 4/11/25 at 2:00 am to RollTide1987
Many things died that day, some for the good and some to all of our detriment, but one thing is certain, the United States of America would never be the same afterward.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 2:05 am to RollTide1987
Posted on 4/11/25 at 5:16 am to BamaSaint
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While he was on campaign he didn't drink.
This is true. John Rawlins, his chief of staff, was a self-made man who saw his father destroy himself and his family via alcohol. He went out of his way to control Grant's whiskey intake and helped keep him sober during campaign season.
As you stated, it was during the winter months when the opposing armies were encamped until the spring thaw that Grant would be whisked away to indulge in the bottle.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 7:39 am to RollTide1987
I’m listening to the book Grant right now. About halfway through and it appears that Grant was a hands on soldier more than a sit back and watch general.
He had problems with alcohol, but he would go weeks, if not months, without an issue. When he drank, he was all in.
It also sounds like he was a master horseman.
He had problems with alcohol, but he would go weeks, if not months, without an issue. When he drank, he was all in.
It also sounds like he was a master horseman.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 8:02 am to TriStateAreaFootball
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The State of Virginia sacrificed its own beauty and serenity to fight for its own honor and for the cause of the rest of the South. Many great men from that state.
The worst troops in the Confederate army were Virginia Regiments, though it could be argued NC was up there too. Had it not been for GA and TX, the war would have been over much sooner
Posted on 4/11/25 at 8:26 am to Drank
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The worst troops in the Confederate army were Virginia Regiments, though it could be argued NC was up there too.
Uh...by "worst," do you actually mean best? I don't know what books you are reading, but Virginia and North Carolina regiments were among the very best in the Confederate army - some would even say elite. There were exceptions, of course, but by and large these states produced some of the hardest fighting regiments of the Civil War. In fact, more soldiers died from North Carolina than from any other state in that conflict.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 8:31 am to Jim Rockford
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Lincolns assassination was a tragedy for the South. His reconstruction plan was much more lenient than the one ultimately imposed.
Yep. The assassination gave the radical republicans the excuse they needed to go hard and really f**k the south. Set the south back at least 50 years.
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