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Posted on 2/28/19 at 12:17 pm to TheCaterpillar
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That is a terrifying stance to take.
You cannot EVER be ok with police illegally searching anyone or anything. That slope isn't just slippery, it's "Oprah on a water slide covered in baby oil" slippery.
I'm not going to argue with you because I frankly agree. But if we get a murderer out of society, he's gone. I wouldn't exactly petition for "justice" in that case. Or even argue to let him out of his sentence on a loophole. Definitely a slippery slope. I guess I'm sorta talking out of both sides of my mouth.
Another question that I didn't quite understand. The girl's remains were found burnt in a pile of ashes next to the house right? Is that part of the DNA that the defense wasn't privy to? Was Avery locked up while the fire was going? Was he at the house? Because I know when there is a fire outside of my house. . . without fail.
Posted on 2/28/19 at 1:01 pm to WhiskeyThrottle
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The girl's remains were found burnt in a pile of ashes next to the house right?
Some small burnt remains were found in a burn pile on his property. There were also other larger burnt remains identified as hers found on the property next to Avery. (This is also where the scent dogs first went to during the initial search). People make the claim that if the cops planted the key why could they have not planted the bones also.
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Posted on 2/28/19 at 1:12 pm to GAFF
If you have followed along with the case recently (which I am guilty of doing) Zellners lays out how Bobby Dasey committed this crime and planted the evidence. She said that she does not believe the cops planted evidence, but rather Bobby Dasey was framing Steve. If she gets it to a retrial I believe she can get him off. She has enough to cause substantial reasonable doubt.
Posted on 2/28/19 at 1:20 pm to JBeam
Most of the things people argue about being missed in the first doc have been completely debunked. The sweat dna on the hood latch of the vehicle? Zellner could not recreate the amount of DNA the state claims to have found on the latch. Avery would have had to lick the hood latch for that much dna to be present. Same with the key, same with the bullet fragments, etc etc.
Posted on 2/28/19 at 1:27 pm to Bustedsack
I hope it's substantial enough to indict every single government employee and law enforcement agent in that entire section of Wisconsin.
Bunch of psychotic inbred 12 year olds.
Bunch of psychotic inbred 12 year olds.
This post was edited on 2/28/19 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 2/28/19 at 1:34 pm to TheVig10
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Most of the things people argue about being missed in the first doc have been completely debunked. The sweat dna on the hood latch of the vehicle? Zellner could not recreate the amount of DNA the state claims to have found on the latch. Avery would have had to lick the hood latch for that much dna to be present. Same with the key, same with the bullet fragments, etc etc.
Do you agree the police told in court isn't possible? That she was raped and cut in the bedroom, then shot in the garage?
Not one drop of blood was found in the trailer or garage.
Posted on 2/28/19 at 1:41 pm to KosmoCramer
She was never in Avery’s trailer. The story the prosecution and police tell, in my opinion is not possible.
The first doc also leaves out the fact that 2 days after Theresa goes missing, Bobby Dasey hangs a deer in that garage and cleans it. That was his explanation as to why the entire garage was then cleaned
The first doc also leaves out the fact that 2 days after Theresa goes missing, Bobby Dasey hangs a deer in that garage and cleans it. That was his explanation as to why the entire garage was then cleaned
Posted on 2/28/19 at 1:46 pm to KosmoCramer
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Not one drop of blood was found in the trailer or garage.
This one bothered me a whole lot, too. Raped, stabbed, strangled, etc, yet there was not one single drop of blood or DNA to be found? These people aren’t near smart/cunning enough to clean up the scene the prosecutors described.
If Avery did it (which I don’t think he did), how could he possibly maintain his innocence for this long? Also, Zellner said it best when she said, ‘if you did it, I’m going to find out.’
I think some of the tests she did (blood spatter on the Rav 4 back door) are somewhat circumstantial, but she seems to have plenty enough to cast a reasonable doubt on Avery and Brandon
Posted on 2/28/19 at 2:17 pm to LSUGUMBO
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This one bothered me a whole lot, too. Raped, stabbed, strangled, etc, yet there was not one single drop of blood or DNA to be found? These people aren’t near smart/cunning enough to clean up the scene the prosecutors described.
This
Brennan is literally mentally handicapped and Steven is on the borderline
Posted on 2/28/19 at 2:35 pm to GAFF
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People make the claim that if the cops planted the key why could they have not planted the bones also.
That's where my thought process was going with asking about Avery's whereabouts when the fire(s) were actually burning. Can they even determine the time that the fire was burning?
Posted on 2/28/19 at 3:07 pm to WhiskeyThrottle
It’s not possible to burn a body in an open fire like the police and prosecution claimed. They would have had to have had some many tired and things to get the fire hot enough to burn a body. The bonfire is a nothing factor and any bones found in the “burn pit” were definitely planted.
The burn barrels are intersting because there is some speculation the bones were actually found in one of the Dassey’s barrels that was moved near Stevens.
The burn barrels are intersting because there is some speculation the bones were actually found in one of the Dassey’s barrels that was moved near Stevens.
Posted on 2/28/19 at 3:08 pm to WhiskeyThrottle
Those shite heads are guilty but I am curious about juvenile law in Wisconsin. They obtained a "confession" from him with no parent or interested party present. That won't fly in LA nor anywhere if I recall Haley v. Ohio and In re Gault correctly. I believe even the brain surgeons posting on the OT could have gotten him to admit to killing JFK or MLK.
Now, if the mother waived his right to remain silent, that might be another matter even though no interested party was present with him, only police.
He's so mentally retarded he had no business going to big boy prison to begin with. Not sure though on all those details.
Now, if the mother waived his right to remain silent, that might be another matter even though no interested party was present with him, only police.
He's so mentally retarded he had no business going to big boy prison to begin with. Not sure though on all those details.
Posted on 2/28/19 at 3:32 pm to WhiskeyThrottle
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As far as the illegal search (planted key notwithstanding), I'm not sure who I agree with. If he ACTUALLY committed the murder, and they searched his property illegally and found actual evidence that he killed the girl, I believe it should be fair game.
What is the counter argument to this?
Do you have a way of knowing for sure that he is guilty? If not, I don't know why you'd be cool with police doing whatever they like to gather the evidence they need.
Posted on 2/28/19 at 4:17 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
yeah, thats a crazy take.
Posted on 3/1/19 at 6:23 am to TheVig10
Don’t forget about that one cop who took the 911 call about someone spitting the car off the road, near avery’s property. Zellner more than establishes that guy as a criminal with all of the missing reports etc on his part.
Also, the ONLY dna in the key was avery’s. How would her car key not have a spec of HER dna on it unless it was cleaned by the LEO and his dna from the original trial (that had been tampered with) placed on it?
She was raped tortured and shot and left no blood anywhere while Steven had a cut on his finger and left incriminating blood everywhere.
This was a setup 100%.
Also, the ONLY dna in the key was avery’s. How would her car key not have a spec of HER dna on it unless it was cleaned by the LEO and his dna from the original trial (that had been tampered with) placed on it?
She was raped tortured and shot and left no blood anywhere while Steven had a cut on his finger and left incriminating blood everywhere.
This was a setup 100%.
Posted on 3/1/19 at 6:42 am to ScaryClown
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So who do they think did the crime if not these two?
Avery killed her. It’s pretty clear and easy case.
Good doc tho.
Posted on 3/1/19 at 7:20 am to jrodLSUke
Not sure if they did it, but I do think there is reasonable doubt, provided that the documentary is accurate.
Posted on 3/1/19 at 7:44 am to LeroyBrown
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Not sure if they did it, but I do think there is reasonable doubt, provided that the documentary is accurate.
If I were a juror, I could not find him guilty with the evidence presented and the holes in the prosecutions fairy tale.
Posted on 3/1/19 at 7:54 am to jrodLSUke
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Avery killed her. It’s pretty clear and easy case.
Avery may be guilty in your opinion but this entire case is anything but clear and easy.
This ruling, allowing for new evidence to be introduced at this stage in process, is very rare especially for Wisconsin. Not being able to re-examine evidence especially evidence that could tell you definitively if the murder happened the way the prosecution claims is crazy.
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