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'Suicide' ruling for teacher's 20 stab wounds may be reexamined

Posted on 8/5/24 at 12:35 pm
Posted by SouthEndzoneTiger
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2008
11020 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 12:35 pm
Yes, this woman was stabbed 20 times, 9 or 10 of them to the back of the head. It was ruled a homicide, then there was a closed door meeting between police and the ME, and it was reversed to suicide. The DA stepped aside due to a conflict of interest. The AG, who is now the governor, was accused of having a conflict of interest. And the doctor who changed it from homicide to suicide now lives in Florida and refuses to talk to anyone. Nah, nothing fishy here.

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Last year, a panel of appellate court judges ruled against the parents' request to force the Philadelphia medical examiner to reclassify Greenberg's death from suicide to homicide or undetermined. The panel found that the parents lacked standing.

But the judges also slammed the city, police and the medical examiner's office for the investigation.

Greenberg's parents alleged a murder cover-up and vowed to take their fight to the state's Supreme Court, finally succeeding last week after outside experts warned them they would face an uphill battle.

"We always wondered why we didn't have standing, Ellen's mother and father," her father, Dr. Joshua Greenberg, told Fox News Digital. "We started it as a fight for Ellen, but… we are fighting on standing and on the ability to challenge the medical examiner. Right now the medical examiner's conclusion cannot be challenged."

After Greenberg's death, a forensic pathologist with the city medical examiner's office named Dr. Marlon Osbourne ruled it a homicide, according to court documents. Then he reversed course after meeting with police behind closed doors and dubbed it officially a suicide.

Greenberg was discovered dead in her kitchen in January 2011 with 20 stab wounds, including 10 from behind, at least one of which could have been inflicted after she was already dead, according to court documents. Her body was also covered in bruises in different stages of healing.

Investigators found a half-made fruit salad on the countertop and signs of a struggle, including that the knife block had been knocked over.

There was evidence the door lock had been tampered with and that her body had been moved, according to her parents' lawyer, Joe Podraza. He told Fox News Digital the knife found at the scene had never been fingerprinted.

The crime scene was cleaned up before detectives arrived with a search warrant, according to court documents. And the appellate court judges said they had not been given any record of police interviews with the building security guard or with Greenberg's fiance, who called 911 to report finding her slumped over in their apartment.

But city police and prosecutors have repeatedly insisted the death was a suicide.

"They never talk about the big gash to Ellen’s head," Dr. Greenberg said Monday. "They never talk about the restraint on the wrists, how she was restrained, only that there was no defensive wounds."

There's also missing video evidence, he said.

"This is such a bogus case," he added. "It's a cluster----."

The Chester County District Attorney’s Office is conducting another outside investigation after Philadelphia District Attorney Larry Krasner stepped away due to a conflict of interest and former Pennsylvania Attorney General Josh Shapiro, who is now the governor, was accused of having another conflict of interest.

Dr. Osbourne has since moved to Florida, where he works in the Palm Beach County Medical Examiner’s Office. He has not responded to requests for comment on the Greenberg case.




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Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
68288 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 12:37 pm to
She ran afoul of the Clinton Machine, I'm afraid.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
107614 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 12:37 pm to
laughs in Vince Foster
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
13765 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 12:38 pm to
DA's son definitely did it.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
20863 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 12:39 pm to
What are they trying to cover up?
Posted by TigerHornII
Member since Feb 2021
835 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 12:40 pm to
Josh Shapiro, who many think might make a fine Vice President of these United States. A corrupt AG working for a corrupt DA, running the country.
Posted by Cshaw91
Member since Mar 2019
2630 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 12:40 pm to
Can’t wait to see Vance dunk on Lil Josh Shapiro about this evil shite
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
13947 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 12:41 pm to
One of the crazier cases I've learned about.

Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68123 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 12:42 pm to
quote:

She ran afoul of the Clinton Machine, I'm afraid

You're not normal. Do more meth.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
16857 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 12:42 pm to
What the hell
Posted by Ghost of Colby
Alberta, overlooking B.C.
Member since Jan 2009
13610 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 12:52 pm to
What’s the explanation for the parent’s not having standing? The poor parents have been forced to fight every layer of the system, and at each point there’s some Bullsh!t reason to continue the coverup.
Posted by Tiger Dan 16
Central City, New Orleans
Member since Jul 2024
112 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 12:55 pm to
This is thread was deliberately aimed to discredit at a very specific politician.

.....we have a board for this. WTF.
Posted by ThePenIsMightier
Member since Jul 2006
9083 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 12:56 pm to
Wiki article

This is a crazy story. She was a teacher so it doesn't seem like there would be any conspiracy reason to murder her. Maybe the fiance?
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
68288 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 12:57 pm to
quote:

You're not normal. Do more meth.



So are you arguing that I'm correct in my assumptions?
Posted by SouthEndzoneTiger
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2008
11020 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 12:58 pm to
quote:

This is thread was deliberately aimed to discredit at a very specific politician.

.....we have a board for this. WTF.


bullshite. I didn't even realize who the AG was until I was at the end of posting everything.. That was absolutely NOT the intent of this thread.
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
14289 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 12:59 pm to
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Dr. Osbourne has since moved to Florida, where he works in the Palm Beach County Medical Examiner’s Office


So he’s in a likely place to do an autopsy of Trump should one be needed. That’s just ridiculous.
Posted by PureMetairie
Metairie
Member since May 2017
1006 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 1:00 pm to
All Mr. Shapiro needs to do is invoke the holocaust narrative. Once that is invoked, your argument is null and void.
Posted by SouthEndzoneTiger
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2008
11020 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 1:01 pm to
quote:

This is a crazy story. She was a teacher so it doesn't seem like there would be any conspiracy reason to murder her. Maybe the fiance?


Yeah, this particular article didn't mention much of the fiance. But my question would be what pull does he have to be able to influence all these people? The ME, police, DA, AG. Like someone mentioned earlier, I think the killer is the son of someone high up.
Posted by LSUBFA83
Member since May 2012
3803 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 1:02 pm to
-stabbed in chest and back of head
-bruises, some half-healed
-signs of struggle
-door tampered with
-body possibly moved
-scene cleaned up before cops got there

Astounding to think that if the parents hadn't pushed the corrupt officials might have gotten away with calling this a suicide.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
129875 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 1:03 pm to
Did she teach for Boeing?
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