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The obesity epidemic

Posted on 6/8/22 at 9:17 am
Posted by tadman
Member since Jun 2020
3852 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 9:17 am
I gained a few too many pounds during lockdown, haven't shed it, and not very happy with where I am. Some clothes don't fit. This is 100pct on me, and not cool.

But it gets me thinking about the new fad where "fat women are totally cool" and "fat shaming is discriminations".

According to this link at West Virginia Dept of Health LINK ).
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According to the National Institutes of Health, obesity and overweight together are the second leading cause of preventable death in the United States...An estimated 300,000 deaths per year are due to the obesity epidemic


Why do we glorify obesity if it causes 300,000 deaths per year? It has nothing to do with body image or sex, it's a simple number that repeats itself every year and we do nothing about it. That is a city the size of Cinci or Pittsburgh, dead, every year.

And not only do we ignore it, we glorify it. "Stop making fun of Lizzo she is beautiful".
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
10056 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 9:20 am to
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Americans... Let's face it: We've been a spoiled country for a long time Do you know what the number one health risk in America is? Obesity. Obesity! They say we're in the middle of an obesity epidemic An epidemic like it is polio. Like we'll be telling our grand kids about it one day The Great Obesity Epidemic of 2004 "How'd you get through it grandpa?" "Oh, it was horrible Johnny, there was cheesecake and pork chops everywhere."

Nobody knows why were getting fatter? Look at our lifestyles!
I'll sit at a drive thru
I'll sit there behind fifteen other cars instead of getting up to make the eight foot walk to the totally empty counter
Everything is mega meal, super sized
"Want biggie fries with that? Want a jumbo fry, wanna go large
Want a biggie fry, wanna have thirty burgers for a nickel, you fat motherfricker?"
"There's room in the bag. Take it!"
"Want a 55 gallon drum of Coke with that? It's only three more cents."


Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83630 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 9:20 am to
is this a thread where we make fun of fat people or do we act like working out and eating healthy is only something douchebags do

you never know with the OT
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
32594 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 9:20 am to
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
25082 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 9:21 am to
Board favorite Bill Maher just called out what he calls Toxic Positivity. He says shame plays an important role in society, and there are things that are worth shaming. Rebranding things that are objectively bad to be things that are good is a sincere problem and it’s centered around feelings not facts.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 9:24 am to
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Why do we glorify obesity if it causes 300,000 deaths per year?


So people who are lazy, undisciplined, and selfish feel better about themselves
Posted by Glorious
Mobile
Member since Aug 2014
24541 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 9:25 am to
To play off that, the “unrealistic beauty standard”, which is the reason behind the body positivity movement, is total bullshite. Studies show that men find about 50% of women as above average. While women find under 20% of men above average. If anything, it’s the bros that deserve a “we’re all beautiful” campaign
This post was edited on 6/8/22 at 9:30 am
Posted by BeerMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2012
8392 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 9:26 am to
I know that right now I’m walking around 15 pounds overweight and am shredded compared to these fatties in Gulf Shores. It’s ridiculous baw. Literally 80% + obese and most of the children too.
Posted by PeteRose
Hall of Fame
Member since Aug 2014
16916 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 9:27 am to
Food = short term instant gratification for people in this country. With fat acceptance culture being pushed now, it’ll just amplify obesity.
Posted by TideHater
Orange Beach AL
Member since May 2007
19706 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 9:28 am to
Obese people need to be registered and have longer waiting periods. That will curtail the deaths.
Posted by OldmanBeasley
Charlotte
Member since Jun 2014
9722 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 9:30 am to
Mingo warned everyone, but no one listened
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
27161 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 9:32 am to
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is this a thread where we make fun of fat people or do we act like working out and eating healthy is only something douchebags do you never know with the OT


You know the answer already. It’s simply “yes”
Posted by tunechi
Member since Jun 2009
10197 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 9:32 am to
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Mingo warned everyone, but no one listened


When they came for Mingo, I said nothing
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
53963 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 9:32 am to
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Why do we glorify obesity if it causes 300,000 deaths per year?


Because people in this country have become weak and irresponsible the last few generations.

I'd say it started with the divorce rate amongst boomers. Their WWII generation parents hated their lives but sucked it up. Their kids threw in the towel and said F it BUT made sure everyone know it wasn't the kids fault. We've went from there to NOTHING is anyone's fault. It's always somebody elses, there are no losers, we all win and nothing is earned...only pre-exiting privilege and luck define success.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
27161 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 9:33 am to
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I know that right now I’m walking around 15 pounds overweight and am shredded compared to these fatties in Gulf Shores. It’s ridiculous baw. Literally 80% + obese and most of the children too.


I think my biggest objection to the obesity “epidemic” is how little scenery there is at American beaches these days. It’s awful.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
55841 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 9:33 am to
i gained a little bit of weight after moving to new orleans (shocker) and eventually tightened up and lost it. it's really not that hard and i don't understand how people just let it snowball into having a gut that pokes out of your tshirt.
Posted by boxcarbarney
Above all things, be a man
Member since Jul 2007
22790 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 9:34 am to
From Paul Carter:

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"Most of the US is Obese. Most of the US isn’t even healthy. Obesity is in fact a chronic/pre existing condition.
We have at least 70 million obese Adult Americans. Obese patients are almost always sicker and harder to care for. Operating is harder - patient positioning, anatomy is not textbook at all etc. Taking care of an obese patient on a vent, everything I said x100. We have some potential nightmares ahead of us."
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In case you missed that, it's from a doctor on my friends list, who is a urologist, but because of being short staffed, is being called to help with this pandemic.
I REALLY hope after this has cleared that...
- We stop promoting body positivity
- We stop promoting plus sized anything, because we all know you're not big boned
- We stop allowing people to say we're "fat shaming" when we talk about obesity
- We stop allowing social justice warriors to have a voice in this when it affects all of us in some way...LIKE RIGHT frickING NOW.
-We wake the frick up that obesity is a burden on the entire health care system
- We wake the frick up that it's connected to all of the pathologies that are killing people in Italy and that the world's leading expert on infectious disease says it will be one of the biggest factors in American deaths and Covid-19
- We wake up the frick up and change something, anything, EVERYTHING different than what we've been doing so that we aren't the fattest f'n nation in the world.
It's pathetic.
Body positivity has never f'n once...
- Lowered blood pressure
- Improved cholesterol
- Improved health markers
- Lowered chronic inflammation
- Cured diabetes
But...LOSING WEIGHT CAN AND HAS BEEN SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN TO DO ALL OF THOSE THINGS.
If you're not going to be part of the solution, then stop being part of the problem.
And body positivity is part of the problem.
SJW's are part of the problem.
If this post hurt your feelings, or you are offended by it, YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM.
Running away from this message, unfriending me, ignoring the fact that you "don't have poor health right now" is all a part of ignorant rationalization.
If you are overweight/obese, it has been PROVEN through longitudinal studies that you WILL have more health problems than those closer to ideal BMI.
You can get mad, but it doesn't change the facts.
It doesn't change the science.
It doesn't remove the problem that right now, this will get worse before it gets better because we're the fattest nation on the planet. And people need to stop tap dancing around it because you don't like the words "fat" and "obese".
I don't like the words "death" "mortality rate" "ICU" "pandemic".
If there was ever going to be something that would create a paradigm shift in this country, as far as fitness goes, if this doesn't do it...we're hopeless.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 9:34 am to
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Mingo warned everyone, but no one listened


Time has chalked up another W for Mingo, imagine that.
Posted by Blutarsky
112th Congress
Member since Jan 2004
9792 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 9:34 am to
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Why do we glorify obesity if it causes 300,000 deaths per year?


Because of their feelings.
Posted by boxcarbarney
Above all things, be a man
Member since Jul 2007
22790 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 9:35 am to
Also from Paul Carter

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I've written several articles about the obesity problem, and without fail, they either get met with a standing ovation or the hatred intensity of 10,000 suns.
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Clearly this is a very emotional issue for the great majority of people. And any time an issue becomes an overly emotional one, then logic and facts and even common sense tends to go right out the window. Just ask some dude who actually thinks that deadlifts are a back exercise.
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But to go on here, let's deal with the common sense part first.
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People get overweight from eating too much. That's it. That's all. Even in rare medical conditions that people like to bring up, those too can be managed by managing energy balance. -
Genes are often brought up as well. But the fact is, obesity has become an epidemic only in the last few decades. If it was a genetic issue then we'd have seen obesity as a problem in direct correlation with certain genealogy. But there's no pattern. There's no "obesity gene". It's a good bet your ancestors were in fact, not obese.
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In countries where food is more scarce, there is no obesity issue. Zero. 100% of the time, where there's less food there's no obesity. In this case, the cause and correlation is 100% factual.
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And now, unfortunately, we're living in a time where it's considered fat shaming if you talk about the facts related to obesity, like how it's directly connected to various cancers, and type II diabetes.
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Fat activism is a plague, and one that goes out of its way in order to suppress legitimate medical findings and information in order to further the "healthy at every size" movement. Which does far more damage because it is not helping people to actually confront reality. Which is this.....
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YOU CANNOT BE HEALTHY AT EVERY SIZE. If you're obese, your health will crumble, and you'll die due to a obesity related disease. This isn't fat shaming. This is fact.
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Don't be a continued part of the problem. Be a part of the solution
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