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re: The state sanctioned mafia known as River Pilots are shaking down the chemical industry
Posted on 4/3/18 at 9:26 am to slackster
Posted on 4/3/18 at 9:26 am to slackster
LINK
also it's amazing how they brazenly admit they would do a purposefully shitty job training people, and put cargo/property/lives at risk, if they weren't able to give these jobs to their family
yes
this is just a conspiracy theory made up in the heads of posters
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But in Louisiana, where pilot jobs are never advertised, the New Orleans-Baton Rouge Steamship Pilots Association wound up with a total of 49 candidates this spring for 44 jobs paying $321,000 a year. At least 37 of the 44 winning candidates are related to other NOBRA pilots.
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"Anybody can be trained to do this job, but the camaraderie is something that can't be taught," said Christopher Johnson, a third-generation pilot whose father and two brothers also belong to the Crescent River Port Pilots Association. "That's why these jobs are handed down. . . . It works better through relations. We go the extra mile to make sure everybody knows what's going on."
also it's amazing how they brazenly admit they would do a purposefully shitty job training people, and put cargo/property/lives at risk, if they weren't able to give these jobs to their family

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The split between insiders and outsiders is stark. At the Crescent association, whose members guide foreign oceangoing ships between Pilottown and New Orleans, 41 out of 44 pilots elected during the past 10 years are related to other pilots. Association leaders said two of the three nonrelatives were recruited into the organization because they are African-American, reflecting the group's effort to include minorities. The other nonrelative is E. Michael Bopp, son of former state legislator Edward S. Bopp of Arabi.
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Altogether, of the 100 pilots elected to the three groups in recent years, at least 85 are related to other pilots, with some new members able to trace their lineage back five or six generations.
yes
this is just a conspiracy theory made up in the heads of posters
This post was edited on 4/3/18 at 9:29 am
Posted on 4/3/18 at 9:27 am to ThatMakesSense
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Good thing networking and connections are forbidden in all other available jobs.
That is a ridiculous analogy given how the pilot associations work
Posted on 4/3/18 at 9:28 am to clooneyisgod
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So your position is that the current system is merit based? That's pretty funny.
My position is for safe operations in navigating ports of entry.
Seems these pilots are doing a pretty good job.
Posted on 4/3/18 at 9:30 am to ThatMakesSense
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My position is for safe operations in navigating ports of entry.
Seems these pilots are doing a pretty good job.
how do we know it's the optimal and most efficient job if we don't open the market up to real competition?
saying "they're doing a good job" is irrelevant unless they're perfect (which they aren't b/c they're human)
Posted on 4/3/18 at 9:31 am to SlowFlowPro
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also it's amazing how they brazenly admit they would do a purposefully shitty job training people, and put cargo/property/lives at risk, if they weren't able to give these jobs to their family
Where does it say that?
Posted on 4/3/18 at 9:31 am to SlowFlowPro
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Anybody can be trained to do this job, but the camaraderie is something that can't be taught," said Christopher Johnson, a
So it must not be that hard to do or learn but learning to play with others is where you really earn your pay.
Makes sense to me.

Posted on 4/3/18 at 9:32 am to SlowFlowPro

Holy shite that's some out in the open corruption. Would love to know how much money they give to politicians every year.
Posted on 4/3/18 at 9:32 am to ThatMakesSense
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Where does it say that?
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What's more, some pilots claim nepotism makes the river a safer place, with fathers more willing to share vital information about traffic and river conditions with sons and sons-in-law than with outsiders less loyal to the organization. Pilots say that's an important issue, considering the dangers posed by the hazardous cargo found on the oceangoing ships they guide each day on the Mississippi River.
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"That's why these jobs are handed down. . . . It works better through relations. We go the extra mile to make sure everybody knows what's going on."
Posted on 4/3/18 at 9:33 am to tgrbaitn08
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navigating the Houston Ship Channel is the same as navigating the Mississippi River
you ever played a game of texas chicken with two 800ft fully laden tankers?
Posted on 4/3/18 at 9:34 am to TulaneFan
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the captain runs the boat. All they do is talk to river traffic.


Posted on 4/3/18 at 9:34 am to ThatMakesSense
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Where does it say that?
Damn, TMS, SFP is just dry raping you here. I wouldn't ask him anymore questions.
Posted on 4/3/18 at 9:35 am to SlowFlowPro
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this is just a conspiracy theory made up in the heads of posters
Yep.
Being a river pilot is something you are bred to do, even though:
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"Anybody can be trained to do this job, but the camaraderie is something that can't be taught," said Christopher Johnson
This post was edited on 4/3/18 at 9:39 am
Posted on 4/3/18 at 9:37 am to slackster
Admitting that anyone can do a job where the salary is equal to a neurosurgeon.
This is such blatant corruption it's kind of cool.

This is such blatant corruption it's kind of cool.
Posted on 4/3/18 at 9:39 am to Eric Nies Grind Time
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This is such blatant corruption it's kind of cool.
It's as Louisianan as crawfish and gumbo.
Posted on 4/3/18 at 9:40 am to ThatMakesSense
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ThatMakesSense
How long has your family been river pilots?
Posted on 4/3/18 at 9:41 am to TH03
Maybe he is currently wooing a daughter of a river pilot.
Posted on 4/3/18 at 9:42 am to TH03
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How long has your family been river pilots
I asked him last page but he somehow missed it. Probably had his eyes closed in pain while Slow went in balls deep.
Posted on 4/3/18 at 9:42 am to Eric Nies Grind Time
btw, great Mitchell and Webb-inspired sig image 

Posted on 4/3/18 at 9:43 am to Eric Nies Grind Time
I been trying to find one to woo my whole life.
Posted on 4/3/18 at 9:44 am to SlowFlowPro

I think there should be a Louisiana Bachelorette reality show where baws try to marry a river pilot daughter.
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