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re: Three young fathers drown in rip tide at Panama City Beach

Posted on 6/22/24 at 8:31 pm to
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
9616 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 8:31 pm to
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Can someone explain to me like I’m dumb what a rip current truly is? I was a lifeguard every year in high school (long time ago at this point lol) but still consider myself a strong swimmer. I don’t understand how thigh/waist level water can pull me out and make me panic. I’ll hang up and listen.


Don't get it either. Have a camp in Grand Isle. Used to go surf fishing all the time when I was a kid with my grandfather. Never had problems. Usually make a yearly beach trip. Have never had a problem.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
65757 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 8:32 pm to
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Curious to see how the OT reacts to this sad drowning story compared to all the other sad drowning stories in the past that were posted.

Only people like you and the likes of CNN want to create something that's not there
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
65798 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 8:34 pm to
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I could easily understand how people don't know what to do in a rip current, and even if they did still panicking if they aren't a strong swimmer.

Not knowing what to do and/or panicking is one thing. Having no understanding of or care for the flag system is another. It is literally there to save the lives of the people who don't know what to do or those who are unable to deal with rough seas. Part of the personal responsibility of going on a beach vacation is knowing and understanding this threat.
This post was edited on 6/22/24 at 8:35 pm
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
51439 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 8:40 pm to
I just think of my recent beach trips and how well my teenaged kids listen to me. I did so much stupid shite too on the water when an adult wasn't in the general vicinity.

3 of my friends drowned on the river when I was in the 8th grade and I was supposed to be with them.
This post was edited on 6/22/24 at 8:42 pm
Posted by Krane
Member since Oct 2017
1471 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 8:43 pm to
Dude with your incredible muscle mass you’d drown in seconds if you encountered a rip tide
Posted by Sput
Member since Mar 2020
8297 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 8:43 pm to
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It time to ban water


Ole raciss arse waters
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
18894 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 8:50 pm to
First step is knowing how to swim 2nd is to understand how to spot them
Posted by GRIZZ
PRAIRIEVILLE
Member since Nov 2009
5756 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 9:00 pm to
You know, I’ve thought about swimming into a rip and having someone on a jet ski video me working my way out of it. Might save some lives when people actually see what to do vs what not to do.
Posted by bakersman
Shreveport
Member since Apr 2011
5836 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 9:21 pm to
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What is inherently stupid about it?


Red flags on the beach due to the storm that hit Texas.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68123 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 9:25 pm to
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3 of my friends drowned on the river when I was in the 8th grade and I was supposed to be with them.

Jesus
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
19757 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 9:29 pm to
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I don’t understand how thigh/waist level water can pull me out and make me panic. I’ll hang up and listen.


Have you ever been in the ocean and felt the strong undertow of a wave? One that you can’t fight against and get back to shore? And you just have to wait it out before you can get back?

Some people don’t know what to do in that situation. They’re also too far out, so the force of the current knocks them over if they don’t have good footing. Throw in a fear of the water and a lack of swim skills, and you’ve got people getting taken out while in a state of chaos.

Also don’t underestimate how weak many people are.
This post was edited on 6/22/24 at 9:30 pm
Posted by CaliforniaTiger
The Land of Fruits and Nuts
Member since Dec 2007
5323 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 9:30 pm to
tragic
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
28310 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 9:32 pm to
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Why do people that can’t swim go to places like pools, lakes, or beaches?


Those that can't swim are rarely the issue, it is those that overestimate their prowess in the water that usually are the ones that get in trouble.

quote:

I can’t rock climb, think I’ll give El Capitan a go.


Plenty of people get out over their skis on El Cap and it is never the ones that can't climb at all.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
74896 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 9:34 pm to
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Yep. People fight it. Just ride it out
But dem sharks past the second sandbar
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
107583 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 9:37 pm to
Terrible.

Whether there had been double reds is irrelevant because the flags would have been down by the time they went in the water. The flags come down when the lifeguards leave (which would have been 6 PM).

Also, if they were coming on the beach from an Air BnB, they may not have been near a public beach access (or flag/lifeguard stand) anyway.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
22374 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 9:38 pm to
Many rip currents you don’t have to be an incredibly strong swimmer, you just have to be understanding of what’s going on and patient and not panic.

These guys likely were bad swimmers/ couldn’t swim and got tired and then I’d bet one of them fell down and it was just absolute panic. Shitty thing is with 3 grown men it would have been dangerous as hell for a single lifeguard to help especially without a paddleboard. A single female lifeguard swimming likely drowns saving them.

A rip current is the natural correction of the water being pushed in, the water has to go out somewhere. It’s basic physics. So you simply ride it out until you get to the deeper water where it stops which is just 50 yards or so at most usually, or you swim parallel to it until you get to the water that’s pushing in.

Water in the surf is basically either pushing in or pushing out (rip current).
This post was edited on 6/22/24 at 9:39 pm
Posted by GruntbyAssociation
Member since Jul 2013
6547 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 9:57 pm to
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sharks feed at night and there have been a lot of activity in the gulf


This what I thought when I read what time they went into the water.
Posted by tiger81
Brentwood, TN.
Member since Jan 2008
20246 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 10:01 pm to
Went too far out once, took everything I had to get back. Had my doubts for a time, will neva make that mistake again. Keep the water at waist level.
Posted by CatsGoneWild
Pigeon forge, Tennessee
Member since Jan 2008
14329 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 10:11 pm to
Why do they have that part of Florida in central time zone? It gets dark so much earlier there than eastern time. It’s still light after 9 in eastern time.
I noticed that when I was in Panama recently that it gets dark very early
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
284757 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 10:19 pm to
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Red flags on the beach due to the storm that hit Texas.


Been going to the gulf coast for decades and have never seen a flag at night

Also have never seen someone go chest deep in the dark either
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