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Toyota execs think we'll be paying $50,000 average transaction prices soon

Posted on 3/29/23 at 9:23 am
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 3/29/23 at 9:23 am
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Even casual observers of the automotive industry have surely noticed how quickly the average cost of a new car in America has risen since the global Covid-19 pandemic. Nearly every single month has brought news of a new high pricing bar, and while there have been signs that things may cool off, top sales executives at Toyota don't seem to think that's going to happen. Speaking to reporters while giving an update on Toyota and Lexus sales results, Jack Hollis, head of sales for Toyota Motor North America, suggested that average transaction prices "will continue to grow" above $50,000.

If you think that sounds crazy, well, you're not alone. But you also may be surprised to hear that we're not very far off that number right now. As of January of this year, the average transaction price for a new car in America sat at $49,507. And yes, that's a record. Singling out luxury models like those sold by Lexus, the average price last sat at a devilish $66,660.

Hollis further went on to say that the used vehicle market will also continue with strong demand, due in no small part to the continued lack of enough new vehicles to sell. Americans would buy as many as 17 million new vehicles this year, Hollis said, but instead, due to supply constraints, "we'll sell around 15 [million], so that means there's another 2 million vehicles added to pent-up demand." Put another way, don't expect used cars to get any cheaper, either, although some models have come off their staggering highs of a year ago.


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Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
86301 posts
Posted on 3/29/23 at 9:24 am to
Way to kick the 30k/yr guys in the nuts
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
69899 posts
Posted on 3/29/23 at 9:24 am to
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Singling out luxury models like those sold by Lexus, the average price last sat at a devilish $66,660.
Your Mom’s devilish.
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
23226 posts
Posted on 3/29/23 at 9:24 am to
I need an e-bike
Posted by VictoryHill
Alabama
Member since Nov 2013
3231 posts
Posted on 3/29/23 at 9:25 am to
This is why I never purchase new cars. Give me one owner or certified pre-owned vehicles from the dealership. Not paying $50k for a new car just so some other a-hole without insurance can be looking at their phone and crash into the back of me.
Posted by AUriptide
Member since Aug 2009
7444 posts
Posted on 3/29/23 at 9:27 am to
"Hey, people are stupid enough to buy them, so why not keep raising prices?"

-Auto makers
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
65747 posts
Posted on 3/29/23 at 9:30 am to
Buy used. Tell the new car lots to go frick themselves. That, or buy new with every intention of driving the damn thing until nothing is left. This mentality that many people have of "needing" a new vehicle every four or five years needs to end.

As long as people are willing to continue paying insane prices, those prices will continue to go up.
This post was edited on 3/29/23 at 9:32 am
Posted by jaytothen
Member since Jan 2020
7537 posts
Posted on 3/29/23 at 9:32 am to
I have never bought a brand new car and I certainly don't plan to start any time soon.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
20175 posts
Posted on 3/29/23 at 9:33 am to
How will Weighlyn and McKinsleigh get to travel ball and cheer practice if my wife doesn't drive the newest $120,000 SUV?
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
60597 posts
Posted on 3/29/23 at 9:36 am to
I've ready several times on here that the prices of new cars will be "falling off a cliff soon" or just wait 6 months(that was said two years ago).

Oh well, I know used car pricing has dropped a little. Hopefully that continues, but I doubt it. I have a 17 year old that needs a vehicle this summer. I gave up even thinking about a used truck. Still stupid expensive.
Posted by Alltheway Tigers!
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
7669 posts
Posted on 3/29/23 at 9:39 am to


Welcome to inflation. Printing/creating all that money through monetary and fiscal actions is starting to outpace efficiencies through technology and such in a big way.

More global debt is no longer the solution.
Posted by LSU Grad Alabama Fan
369 Cardboard Box Lane
Member since Nov 2019
12890 posts
Posted on 3/29/23 at 9:39 am to
The only positive is that our streets will start to look like Cuba soon.




This post was edited on 3/29/23 at 9:39 am
Posted by ThermoDynamicTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
1351 posts
Posted on 3/29/23 at 9:39 am to
In other news, qualified mechanics are about to be knee deep in truck nutz
Posted by BilbeauTBaggins
probably stuck in traffic
Member since May 2021
7089 posts
Posted on 3/29/23 at 9:40 am to
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Give me one owner or certified pre-owned vehicles from the dealership. Not paying $50k for a new car

Used cars are going for just as much as a new car. Even with those added warranties, it's not worth buying a used car anymore.

Trade in prices are also dropping sooner and lower than current new car prices.

I'm still waiting for the "inevitable" market crash I've been hoping for since last year.
Posted by TejasHorn
High Plains Driftin'
Member since Mar 2007
11587 posts
Posted on 3/29/23 at 9:42 am to
Everyone expects home and auto price “bubbles” to burst and prices to fall rapidly.

But they aren’t bubbles in the frenzy buying sense… they were caused by supply and demand and there is ongoing supply issues throughout the economy.
This post was edited on 3/29/23 at 9:42 am
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
136980 posts
Posted on 3/29/23 at 9:42 am to
"And here's why that's a good thing"

-CNN
Posted by toofache
Kansas City
Member since Feb 2015
125 posts
Posted on 3/29/23 at 9:43 am to
New car prices are coming down, especially on used vehicles.

There is an SUV that had been selling for 20K over MSRP for the last year or so. I kept waiting and last week finally found a dealer willing to sell it for 3K under MSRP.
Posted by frequent flyer
USA
Member since Jul 2021
3291 posts
Posted on 3/29/23 at 9:43 am to
Fun fact.

Chevrolet sells more cars that costs over $60,000 than any other automaker. Ford sells second most. Both of them outsell Mercedes and BMW in that price range.

People complain about American care but Americans still trust them with the most expensive products.
This post was edited on 3/29/23 at 9:45 am
Posted by DVinBR
Member since Jan 2013
14528 posts
Posted on 3/29/23 at 9:45 am to
absurd car loans driving demand causing vehicle prices to rise because people think they can afford the vehicle by just making the note payments but all they are doing is draining their ability to save money and paying shite tons more for the vehicle in interest
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
32000 posts
Posted on 3/29/23 at 9:47 am to
Car dealerships are basically just mortgage lenders now. Most people when they walk into a dealership don't care about the total price. They are only concerned about their monthly note. When you can finance a car for 60, 72, 84 months (5, 6, 7 YEARS!!!), people will buy it. Their analysis will be "I can't afford to pay a $2,300 monthly note for a $75k truck on a 36 month loan. But only $1,200 per month on a 72 month loan? Where do I sign!!!" The fact that they will be paying a ridiculous amount of interest on that 72 month loan is ignored. They are taking the short-sighted view. Dealerships know that. And if customers can't pay the note? Well, cars are easier to repossess than houses.

Demand will always be there for many...even if that means putting nothing (or very little) into savings in order to buy that "dream car"...at least for this year.

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