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re: Tyreek Hill Arrest Footage Released
Posted on 9/10/24 at 2:59 pm to BhamDore
Posted on 9/10/24 at 2:59 pm to BhamDore
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Rolling down your window allows police to use the plain view doctrine. Anything illegal in your vehicle in plain sight is now in play. It's also hard for cops to lie and say the smell the odor of marijuana if you don't let down your windows.
How bout just don’t have anything illegal and wait until you’re at home to do your drugs
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Posted on 9/10/24 at 3:04 pm to El Tigre Grande
How the hell did this thread blow up so much
Posted on 9/10/24 at 3:10 pm to lsupride87
quote:
LINK
quote:Yes, in Florida, you are required to roll your window down when the police are attempting to pull you over. It's important to comply with this requirement to ensure a smooth interaction with law enforcement.
LINK
quote:Do you have to roll your window for police in Florida? Yes, at the first safe location, pull over, roll your window down, turn your vehicle off, and place your hands on the steering wheel.
He did that. He stopped at the "first" safe place ("first" is subjective). He then rolled down his window and gave the police his DL. So based on what you posted, he met the requirements under the law. Nowhere does it say it can't roll his window back up. If it does, please show me that in the criminal code. (You can't because it doesn't exist.)
But what both of those sites have posted is legal ADVICE to quote "ensure a smooth interaction with law enforcement." However, there is a difference in doing those things as a courtesy and being REQUIRED to do those things under the law. This is where you're getting it twisted. The only thing you are REQUIRED to do based on the statues your posted is stop and present the police with your Driver license. Hill did both of those things. Everything else was escalation and ego.
This post was edited on 9/10/24 at 3:14 pm
Posted on 9/10/24 at 3:12 pm to Lonnie Utah
Case law at the US Supreme Court has established tellling a person to exit the vehicle is a lawful order
It’s assinine to argue telling someone to roll down the window isn’t a lawful order based on precedent. Rolling down a window is far more reasonable than exiting the vehicle in entirety
It’s assinine to argue telling someone to roll down the window isn’t a lawful order based on precedent. Rolling down a window is far more reasonable than exiting the vehicle in entirety
This post was edited on 9/10/24 at 3:13 pm
Posted on 9/10/24 at 3:13 pm to lsupride87
Bro you were arguing about this same exact shite when I was eating lunch at 11:35ish
Your dedication to your craft is fricking INSANEEEE
Your dedication to your craft is fricking INSANEEEE
Posted on 9/10/24 at 3:13 pm to OMLandshark
I wish they’d have punched him in the stomach like he did that pregnant girl
Posted on 9/10/24 at 3:13 pm to Lonnie Utah
quote:
He did that. He stop at the "first" safe place ("first" is subjective). He then rolled down his window. So based on what you posted, he met the requirements under the law.
But what both of those sites have posted is legal ADVICE to quote "ensure a smooth interaction with law enforcement." However, there is a difference in doing those things as a courtesy and being REQUIRED to do those things under the law. This is where you're getting it twisted. The only thing you are REQUIRED to do based on the statues your posted is stop and present the police with your Driver license. Hill did both of those things. Everything else was escalation and ego.
Thank you! I'm not fan of the guy but he did everything legally required. Seperate the person from the situation and see what was legal. Them removing out of the car in that fashion was uncalled for. There was 4 or 5 officers.
Posted on 9/10/24 at 3:14 pm to Lonnie Utah
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Everything else was escalation and ego.
Are you talking about Mr. Hill, or the police officer?
Because what you said applies to Tyreek just as much as it does the cop
Posted on 9/10/24 at 3:14 pm to lsupride87
quote:
Case law at the US Supreme Court has established tellling a person to exit the vehicle is a lawful order
Ok. But that's not what the cops were upset about. They were upset he rolled his window back up. THEN they issued the "get out of the car order".
This post was edited on 9/10/24 at 3:18 pm
Posted on 9/10/24 at 3:14 pm to TheRouxGuru
quote:
Are you talking about Mr. Hill, or the police officer?
Yes.
Posted on 9/10/24 at 3:15 pm to Lonnie Utah
quote:Oh really? There were no orders to roll the window down before the get out the car order?
They were upset he rolled his window back up. THEN they issued the "get out of the car order".
Posted on 9/10/24 at 3:16 pm to lsupride87
quote:
Case law at the US Supreme Court has established tellling a person to exit the vehicle is a lawful order
It’s assinine to argue telling someone to roll down the window isn’t a lawful order based on precedent. Rolling down a window is far more reasonable than exiting the vehicle in entirety
Why cannot you see the difference between presenting a drivers license and other documents versus being asked to get out of the car. the USSC has ruled you can be asked to step out or taken out but not about opening your window.
Posted on 9/10/24 at 3:16 pm to lsupride87
Pride, I’m just gonna tell you this, which I’m sure you already know, but no matter what you say or what you post, no matter what facts you bring to the table, a certain segment of this board is anti-cop everything no matter what. I know you don’t care, but you are definitely wasting your time here.
Posted on 9/10/24 at 3:18 pm to TheRouxGuru
No time arguing with the ignorant is time wasted my friend 
We all have crosses to bear and this is the one I take up for Christ
We all have crosses to bear and this is the one I take up for Christ
This post was edited on 9/10/24 at 3:19 pm
Posted on 9/10/24 at 3:19 pm to lsupride87
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Oh really? There were no orders to roll the window down before the get out the car order?
If the law said, "You must roll down your window and keep it down for the duration of the traffic stop", you'd be right. But that's not what it says. It says you must roll it down. That's exactly what Mr. Hill did.
You've already been told that a lawful order is backed up by law. There is no law saying he must keep his window down.
You (and the cops) are trying to read something into the law that isn't there. If the legislature wanted someone to keep their window down the entire time then why didn't they write the law that way? It's a spirt of the law vs letter of the law thing. You are only required to follow the later.
This post was edited on 9/10/24 at 3:20 pm
Posted on 9/10/24 at 3:21 pm to Lonnie Utah
The law is clear. All lawful orders must be obeyed
It does not list what a lawful order is. However, you can research case law and the opinions of flrodia criminal attorneys whether or not they believe rolling down the window would suffice as a lawful order
Tell me what you find
It does not list what a lawful order is. However, you can research case law and the opinions of flrodia criminal attorneys whether or not they believe rolling down the window would suffice as a lawful order
Tell me what you find
Posted on 9/10/24 at 3:22 pm to lsupride87
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All lawful orders must be obeyed
And why can't you comprehend that keeping the window rolled down isn't a lawful order because it's not backed up by law? You don't have to do EVERYTHING law enforcement says.
Posted on 9/10/24 at 3:24 pm to lsupride87
You’re something else baw 
There’s a hurricane hurricaning in the gulf. Shouldn’t you be prepping???
There’s a hurricane hurricaning in the gulf. Shouldn’t you be prepping???
Posted on 9/10/24 at 3:25 pm to Lonnie Utah
quote:Bo, that isn’t how this works
And why can't you comprehend that keeping the window rolled down isn't a lawful order because it's not backed up by law?
You need to explain why “roll your window down” would not be considered a lawful order. What prevents it from being a lawful order. Please walk us through that
Posted on 9/10/24 at 3:28 pm to lsupride87
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You need to explain why “roll your window down” would not be considered a lawful order
Because 1). He rolled the widow down initially and gave the police his Drivers license. That is ALL that's required by law. He fulfilled his legal obligation.
2). There is no law that requires he KEEP his window down during the course of the interaction. Therefore, the police cannot LAWFULLY require him to roll it back down. They can REQUEST it, but he is not obligated to comply. Any "order" to roll the window back down isn't legal.
I cannot make it more simple that that.
This post was edited on 9/10/24 at 3:29 pm
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