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re: US fertility rates at an all-time low
Posted on 4/22/25 at 3:35 pm to jizzle6609
Posted on 4/22/25 at 3:35 pm to jizzle6609
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I did honestly think Louisiana had more Catholics than 25-26%. I didnt realize the number branch off religions did in that region.
South of I-10, that Catholic percentage is higher than 50% in many areas.
Above I-10, that Catholic percentage is probably 10%. 50% Baptist with a lot of Methodist and other Protestant religions.
2016 map, but mostly still the same
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Posted on 4/22/25 at 3:37 pm to High C
Isn’t it bad to have a higher population than your resources can handle? See Africa? At some point, don’t humans need to reach some sort of homeostasis?
I’ve just always wondered that when these types of doom and gloom situations are presented.
I’ve just always wondered that when these types of doom and gloom situations are presented.
Posted on 4/22/25 at 3:39 pm to High C
This problem could easily be fixed by taking away women's rights.
Posted on 4/22/25 at 3:41 pm to 904
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this, plus the fact that most couples/families can't afford to live on a single income anymore, meaning that the woman has to work, are by far the biggest factors
and to work society says you have to go to college and get a degree…and then if you are smart/responsible you want to save a bit before getting married and having kids
that puts women at mid to late 20s before even trying to have kids, which is already on the downward trend of fertility and has more risks and complications, which leads to the next insanely costly path…IVF and/or adoption
This post was edited on 4/22/25 at 3:43 pm
Posted on 4/22/25 at 3:41 pm to OweO
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Is fertility rates being at an all-time low a bad thing?
The huge positive of that chart is fertility rates of girls aged 14-19 dropped from 40 to 13 (per 1000) and 102 to 55 for women 20-24.
The fertility rate actually stayed pretty much the same for all women over 25 years old.
It's hard to convince me it's a bad thing that less high school and college age girls having babies is such an awful thing overall for a society.
Posted on 4/22/25 at 3:44 pm to Dire Wolf
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tholic preist might have sent more than a few down that path
Got to learn to walk off bad shite or you will have a miserable life.
We teach people to complain now and talk about feelings instead of working hard and prospering. Bad shite happens to everyone, real bad shite.
This post was edited on 4/22/25 at 3:45 pm
Posted on 4/22/25 at 3:45 pm to Shexter
Thats what I was thinking about my boy.
South I10
I always forget that Louisiana really begins with I-10 down to the coastline.
The north is miserable.
South I10
I always forget that Louisiana really begins with I-10 down to the coastline.
The north is miserable.
Posted on 4/22/25 at 3:52 pm to wm72
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It's hard to convince me it's a bad thing that less high school and college age girls having babies is such an awful thing overall for a society.
Exactly. I hate to put it like this but quality is more important than quantity.
Posted on 4/22/25 at 3:57 pm to 50_Tiger
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Were on a very fast train to Japan level crisis.
I'm preparing for it to happen, it won't get better anytime soon. Whenever it's discussed people either brush it off or point the finger.
Posted on 4/22/25 at 3:58 pm to High C
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cost of raising children
If parents waited until they could afford it to have children, they’d never have children.
However, women being outside of the home working and abortion are certainly very bad things for this society. Extreme “me” mentality is probably the biggest though. A lot of young people nowadays, sadly, view children as burdens.
Posted on 4/22/25 at 4:03 pm to High C
There should be massive tax incentives for those having kids.
As long as a parent is gainfully employed and they aren’t on welfare, there should be massive incentives for couples to reproduce.
As long as a parent is gainfully employed and they aren’t on welfare, there should be massive incentives for couples to reproduce.
Posted on 4/22/25 at 4:04 pm to grizzlylongcut
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A lot of young people nowadays, sadly, view children as burdens.
I'd argue they're exactly that for any couples who are entirely unprepared or unfit to have children.
Unfortunately, those same children also often become a burden for everyone else in the community as well.
Posted on 4/22/25 at 4:05 pm to High C
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Feminism, cost of raising children, and abortion rates are the biggest reasons, imo
Definitely and this may be tied in or fall under feminism but another big reason is...divorce and child custody laws in this country. It won't help the cost of raising children issue but it will at least help remove one of the biggest disincentives for people (especially men) to get married.
End no fault divorce, make it automatic that you leave a marriage that ends with divorce with any assets you acquired before getting married, and automatically default to 50/50 child custody as the starting point with that only changing under extraordinary circumstances or by a negotiated custody agreement between both divorcing parents. Also remove the incentive for states to cash in off the backs of non-custodial parents who have to pay child support and/or alimony
Posted on 4/22/25 at 4:05 pm to OweO
quote:Agreed, but both are important.
Exactly. I hate to put it like this but quality is more important than quantity.
We need quantity of quality.
Incentivize individuals of quality to have children.
Disincentivize those who should not have children.
Posted on 4/22/25 at 4:06 pm to High C
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Trump officials are quietly weighing options to boost America's declining birthrates—from $5,000 "baby bonuses" to reserving 30% of Fulbright scholarships for married applicants with children.
It needs to be limited to only citizens who aren’t on welfare.
I read where Vienna Austria’s elementary and middle school students are 41.2% muslim, and that was the largest religious group. Christians students as a whole were at 35%, and other beliefs were at just above 23% The reasoning was Vienna was handing out the most money to the asylum seekers than other parts of Austria.
This post was edited on 4/22/25 at 4:17 pm
Posted on 4/22/25 at 4:08 pm to grizzlylongcut
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If parents waited until they could afford it to have children, they’d never have children.
It’s now more expensive to have kids than ever. It’s hard to do on one salary. So then you got to look at day care which is $1000-$2500 a month depending where you are at.
Housing is as expensive as it’s ever been.
Wax all yall want about liberals and feminism but young people are just doing the math.
Posted on 4/22/25 at 4:08 pm to High C
quote:This was inevitable once women started entering the workforce.
US fertility rates at an all-time low
A $5k bonus is not going to make a difference, and even if it did, its not a good idea. The goal is increasing the number of quality people. Offering $5k per kid is a recipe for getting a pile of biomass. I don't know how to incentivize quality people to have more kids in our current cultural environment.
Posted on 4/22/25 at 4:10 pm to 904
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Everyone I've ever met who practices "Natural Family Planning" has like 7 kids, many of whom were "unexpected"
That's the point of Catholic "natural family planning."
Posted on 4/22/25 at 4:12 pm to Ronaldo Burgundiaz
quote:Agreed.
A $5k bonus is not going to make a difference
That isn’t even a bandaid.
Long term incentives are needed.
The USA needs to figure out how to incentivize households running on only one parent working too.
Posted on 4/22/25 at 4:14 pm to Eighteen
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that puts women at mid to late 20s before even trying to have kids,
I would consider it a net positive that less women have children in their teens in and early 20s, especially if one considers kids in broken homes and chaotic family situations to be a problem.
Seems preferable that people make better, educated decisions about having children.
Not too many of us make the best long term life decisions in our high school and college years.
If "we" want to increase fertility rates in a quality way, it may mean not making up things we don't like to blame and listen to the actual reasons so many married couples who would love to have 3 or 4 children end up deciding to just have one.
Those reasons seem to mainly be financial. Price of larger house, price of education, price of everything compared to wages and therefore the need to have 2 jobs so daycare to afford those things . . . etc etc etc
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