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U.S. News & World Report 2025 Best Colleges list
Posted on 9/24/24 at 3:27 pm
Posted on 9/24/24 at 3:27 pm
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Unlike the prior edition, the annual U.S. News Best Colleges rankings underwent only slight methodological changes this year, so the top-ranked colleges stayed mostly steady from last year.
Despite some opposition to the rankings, the vast majority of schools U.S. News surveyed continued to report data: 78.1% of the nearly 1,500 ranked institutions returned their statistical information in the spring and summer of 2024, compared to about 79.9% last year. This includes 99 of the top 100 ranked National Universities and 96 of the top 100 National Liberal Arts Colleges.
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Methodology Changes
What's New?
The weights of some existing indicators for the 2025 edition were modified. Pell Grant-recipient graduation performance and graduation rates among National Universities, for instance, both increased from 3% to 5.5%.
More than half of a school's rank is again made up of outcome measures related to how successful an institution is at enrolling and graduating students from different backgrounds with manageable debt and postgraduation success, according to the U.S. News data team.
What Was Eliminated?
Two factors introduced the prior year were dropped from this year's rankings calculations for National Universities and historically Black colleges and universities: first-generation graduation rates and first-generation graduation rate performance. With original weights of 2.5% each, these factors were removed due to limitations with College Scorecard data, per the U.S. News data team.
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1. Princeton
2. MIT
3. Harvard
4. Stanford
5. Yale
6. CA institute of technology
7. Duke
8. John Hopkins
9. Northwestern
10. University of PA
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full list
Posted on 9/24/24 at 3:29 pm to RLDSC FAN
TLDR
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Louisiana State University--Baton Rouge
Baton Rouge, LA
#179 in National Universities (tie)
Posted on 9/24/24 at 3:37 pm to Shexter
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Louisiana State University--Baton Rouge
Baton Rouge, LA
#179 in National Universities (tie)
God that's atrocious. Even worse, they have Ole Miss just above LSU.

Posted on 9/24/24 at 3:37 pm to RLDSC FAN
I was listening to a podcast where one of the guests talked about how the avg test scores and GPAs at these Ivy League schools has absolutely skyrocketed over the last 10-15 years. They’re basically handing out good grades at these places.
Posted on 9/24/24 at 3:37 pm to RLDSC FAN
Which schools accept coal and produce diamonds?
Stanford, MIT and Harvard accept diamonds and shuttle the diamonds through.
Stanford, MIT and Harvard accept diamonds and shuttle the diamonds through.
Posted on 9/24/24 at 3:41 pm to The Boat
Those dumbass Cajuns trying to say they are better than the state's flagship school. Hell they aren't even better than their sister university in Monroe.
Posted on 9/24/24 at 3:50 pm to Shexter
Yeah, I'm calling bullshite on the list. They've got Florida A&M at 125 and FIU at 98. Like all of these things, they take care of our "betters" in the northeast, midwest, and left coast; then prop up the underserved.
Posted on 9/24/24 at 3:53 pm to LSUDAN1
In state
ULL Tuition $10,418
LSU Tuition $11,954
Only @ $1500 difference - I'm picking LSU
ULL Tuition $10,418
LSU Tuition $11,954
Only @ $1500 difference - I'm picking LSU
Posted on 9/24/24 at 3:58 pm to HarryBalzack
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They've got Florida A&M at 125
Yeah, that was sort of a jump out at me red flag.
I looked it up. They have a 55% graduation rate. LSU is nearly 70%.
There's no way that's a comparable education to, much less 50 slots better than, LSU.
Posted on 9/24/24 at 4:09 pm to Y.A. Tittle
Idk if graduation rate really is a strong indicator
Posted on 9/24/24 at 4:32 pm to upgrayedd
quote:Well, they do cull heavily on admissions. Another factor that I've read too is that their students are exceptionally adept at navigating scheduling, making sure that they get into the classes where the profs are known to be easier graders and limiting the number of hard classes they take concurrently. Since most of them come from a more-or-less privileged background to start with, they don't have to worry about the extra cost of a additional semester that might result.
talked about how the avg test scores and GPAs at these Ivy League schools has absolutely skyrocketed over the last 10-15 years. They’re basically handing out good grades at these places.
My brother in law went to Harvard and I work with Yale, Princeton, Brown, and Penn folks. They're sharp, no doubt, but not any sharper than the rest of us with degrees from UA, LSU, UGA, etc. Big difference is that they came from wealthy backgrounds where their parents could afford the prep required for admission, the cost of attending, and the ability to write a fat check to the school fundraiser. Honestly, I had three students who wanted to go Ivy when I taught at a prep school. One of the three, the one that was third in ability ended was the only one who ended up there. Her father happened to be a multimillionaire and the other twos dads weren't.
Posted on 9/24/24 at 5:33 pm to HarryBalzack
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Well, they do cull heavily on admissions. Another factor that I've read too is that their students are exceptionally adept at navigating scheduling, making sure that they get into the classes where the profs are known to be easier graders and limiting the number of hard classes they take concurrently. Since most of them come from a more-or-less privileged background to start with, they don't have to worry about the extra cost of a additional semester that might result.
It is absolutely grade inflation in many of these schools and it has only gotten worse. This grade inflation issue began ironically with Princeton more than anyone, and they are #1.

Students freak out about grades and since they have confidence issues if they don't get an A in everything, faculty coddle them and inflate their grades heavily.
That was not the case at LSU 20+ years ago, although I know it happens there too now.
The whole, we have the best students, so they are all going to be A/B students is BS if you are not challenging them. They are simply less challenging at these schools when it comes to grades.
Posted on 9/24/24 at 5:50 pm to The Boat
ESPN is going to be so confused.
University of Louisiana => ULL
ULM => University of Louisiana
University of Louisiana => ULL
ULM => University of Louisiana
Posted on 9/24/24 at 5:54 pm to RLDSC FAN
Well, one of my alma maters is in the top ten, the other is in the 170s. Directionally, that might be right, but I still loved LSU and learned much about life there.
Posted on 9/24/24 at 5:58 pm to HarryBalzack
My ex graduated from Sarah Lawrence. My current SO is a Columbia alum. My anecdotal experience is that people who go to Ivy and Ivy-equivalent schools are all more or less batshit.
Posted on 9/24/24 at 6:24 pm to RLDSC FAN
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The weights of some existing indicators for the 2025 edition were modified. Pell Grant-recipient graduation performance and graduation rates among National Universities, for instance, both increased from 3% to 5.5%.
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More than half of a school's rank is again made up of outcome measures related to how successful an institution is at enrolling and graduating students from different backgrounds with manageable debt and postgraduation success, according to the U.S. News data team.
Posted on 9/24/24 at 6:49 pm to dallastigers
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More than half of a school's rank is again made up of outcome measures related to how successful an institution is at enrolling and graduating students from different backgrounds
(but identical political ideologies)
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