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U.S. News & World Report 2025 Best Colleges list

Posted on 9/24/24 at 3:27 pm
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 9/24/24 at 3:27 pm
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Unlike the prior edition, the annual U.S. News Best Colleges rankings underwent only slight methodological changes this year, so the top-ranked colleges stayed mostly steady from last year.

Despite some opposition to the rankings, the vast majority of schools U.S. News surveyed continued to report data: 78.1% of the nearly 1,500 ranked institutions returned their statistical information in the spring and summer of 2024, compared to about 79.9% last year. This includes 99 of the top 100 ranked National Universities and 96 of the top 100 National Liberal Arts Colleges.


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Methodology Changes

What's New?

The weights of some existing indicators for the 2025 edition were modified. Pell Grant-recipient graduation performance and graduation rates among National Universities, for instance, both increased from 3% to 5.5%.

More than half of a school's rank is again made up of outcome measures related to how successful an institution is at enrolling and graduating students from different backgrounds with manageable debt and postgraduation success, according to the U.S. News data team.

What Was Eliminated?

Two factors introduced the prior year were dropped from this year's rankings calculations for National Universities and historically Black colleges and universities: first-generation graduation rates and first-generation graduation rate performance. With original weights of 2.5% each, these factors were removed due to limitations with College Scorecard data, per the U.S. News data team.


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1. Princeton

2. MIT

3. Harvard

4. Stanford

5. Yale

6. CA institute of technology

7. Duke

8. John Hopkins

9. Northwestern

10. University of PA





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Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 9/24/24 at 3:29 pm to
TLDR

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Louisiana State University--Baton Rouge
Baton Rouge, LA

#179 in National Universities (tie)
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 9/24/24 at 3:29 pm to
Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 9/24/24 at 3:32 pm to




Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
107199 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 3:37 pm to
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Louisiana State University--Baton Rouge
Baton Rouge, LA

#179 in National Universities (tie)


God that's atrocious. Even worse, they have Ole Miss just above LSU.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
136980 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 3:37 pm to
I was listening to a podcast where one of the guests talked about how the avg test scores and GPAs at these Ivy League schools has absolutely skyrocketed over the last 10-15 years. They’re basically handing out good grades at these places.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
74865 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 3:37 pm to
Which schools accept coal and produce diamonds?

Stanford, MIT and Harvard accept diamonds and shuttle the diamonds through.
Posted by LSUDAN1
Member since Oct 2010
10169 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 3:41 pm to
Those dumbass Cajuns trying to say they are better than the state's flagship school. Hell they aren't even better than their sister university in Monroe.
Posted by HarryBalzack
Member since Oct 2012
15986 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 3:50 pm to
Yeah, I'm calling bullshite on the list. They've got Florida A&M at 125 and FIU at 98. Like all of these things, they take care of our "betters" in the northeast, midwest, and left coast; then prop up the underserved.
Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
16669 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 3:53 pm to
In state
ULL Tuition $10,418
LSU Tuition $11,954

Only @ $1500 difference - I'm picking LSU
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
107199 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 3:58 pm to
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They've got Florida A&M at 125


Yeah, that was sort of a jump out at me red flag.

I looked it up. They have a 55% graduation rate. LSU is nearly 70%.

There's no way that's a comparable education to, much less 50 slots better than, LSU.
Posted by fareplay
Member since Nov 2012
5873 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 4:09 pm to
Idk if graduation rate really is a strong indicator
Posted by HarryBalzack
Member since Oct 2012
15986 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 4:32 pm to
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talked about how the avg test scores and GPAs at these Ivy League schools has absolutely skyrocketed over the last 10-15 years. They’re basically handing out good grades at these places.
Well, they do cull heavily on admissions. Another factor that I've read too is that their students are exceptionally adept at navigating scheduling, making sure that they get into the classes where the profs are known to be easier graders and limiting the number of hard classes they take concurrently. Since most of them come from a more-or-less privileged background to start with, they don't have to worry about the extra cost of a additional semester that might result.

My brother in law went to Harvard and I work with Yale, Princeton, Brown, and Penn folks. They're sharp, no doubt, but not any sharper than the rest of us with degrees from UA, LSU, UGA, etc. Big difference is that they came from wealthy backgrounds where their parents could afford the prep required for admission, the cost of attending, and the ability to write a fat check to the school fundraiser. Honestly, I had three students who wanted to go Ivy when I taught at a prep school. One of the three, the one that was third in ability ended was the only one who ended up there. Her father happened to be a multimillionaire and the other twos dads weren't.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
11780 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 5:33 pm to
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Well, they do cull heavily on admissions. Another factor that I've read too is that their students are exceptionally adept at navigating scheduling, making sure that they get into the classes where the profs are known to be easier graders and limiting the number of hard classes they take concurrently. Since most of them come from a more-or-less privileged background to start with, they don't have to worry about the extra cost of a additional semester that might result.



It is absolutely grade inflation in many of these schools and it has only gotten worse. This grade inflation issue began ironically with Princeton more than anyone, and they are #1.

Students freak out about grades and since they have confidence issues if they don't get an A in everything, faculty coddle them and inflate their grades heavily.

That was not the case at LSU 20+ years ago, although I know it happens there too now.

The whole, we have the best students, so they are all going to be A/B students is BS if you are not challenging them. They are simply less challenging at these schools when it comes to grades.
Posted by RougeDawg
Member since Jul 2016
6786 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 5:50 pm to
ESPN is going to be so confused.

University of Louisiana => ULL

ULM => University of Louisiana
Posted by DmitriKaramazov
Member since Nov 2015
4941 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 5:54 pm to
Well, one of my alma maters is in the top ten, the other is in the 170s. Directionally, that might be right, but I still loved LSU and learned much about life there.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
102133 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 5:58 pm to
My ex graduated from Sarah Lawrence. My current SO is a Columbia alum. My anecdotal experience is that people who go to Ivy and Ivy-equivalent schools are all more or less batshit.
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
67918 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 6:10 pm to
nb4 Johns Hopkins
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
7903 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 6:24 pm to
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The weights of some existing indicators for the 2025 edition were modified. Pell Grant-recipient graduation performance and graduation rates among National Universities, for instance, both increased from 3% to 5.5%.

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More than half of a school's rank is again made up of outcome measures related to how successful an institution is at enrolling and graduating students from different backgrounds with manageable debt and postgraduation success, according to the U.S. News data team.


Posted by DrrTiger
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2023
1391 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 6:49 pm to
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More than half of a school's rank is again made up of outcome measures related to how successful an institution is at enrolling and graduating students from different backgrounds


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