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Why can’t people just acknowledge that ‘things were different’

Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:42 pm
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
25532 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:42 pm
In this obsession by BLM to ‘move forward’, they are super concerned with the past.

I think we can all agree slavery was wrong. The Civil War was a fricked up time.

It’s pathetic that people are obsessing over an event that happened that long ago. Why are we incapable of moving on until these things are erased? That’s bullshite. If racism has always been a problem, why did athletes play last year? And the decades prior? NOW we are supposed to topple more statues, cleanse the history books, remove school songs?

If you are triggered by a 100 year old song, I pity you. Why can’t people just acknowledge it was a dark time in our history, and we’ve learned from it.

People are horrible for what they did in the 1800’s? Even if it was a societal norm? This makes absolutely no sense.
Posted by turnpiketiger
Southeast Texas
Member since May 2020
9546 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:43 pm to
Because money. That’s why they played that’s why life goes on. If Sports were being played right now, none of this would be a big thing like it is.
Posted by namvet6566
Member since Oct 2012
6766 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:43 pm to
Becuase people do not know History, they hav to have something to complain about
Posted by SelaTiger
Member since Aug 2016
18105 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:44 pm to
Most people wouldn’t give a frick if the media weren’t telling them they had to.
Posted by Klingler7
Houston
Member since Nov 2009
12018 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:45 pm to
Because being a victim is easier than actually working your arse off. They hate wealthy white people who are successful.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
25532 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:55 pm to
I mean, taking down statues does nothing. It just gives this vocal minority more of an excuse to not know shite.
Posted by PillPusher
Gulf Coast
Member since Oct 2009
5713 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:56 pm to
Because people have no idea what the term zeitgeist means.
Posted by Buryl
Member since Sep 2016
832 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:57 pm to
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In this obsession by BLM to ‘move forward’, they are super concerned with the past.

I think we can all agree slavery was wrong. The Civil War was a fricked up time.

It’s pathetic that people are obsessing over an event that happened that long ago. Why are we incapable of moving on until these things are erased? That’s bullshite. If racism has always been a problem, why did athletes play last year? And the decades prior? NOW we are supposed to topple more statues, cleanse the history books, remove school songs?

If you are triggered by a 100 year old song, I pity you. Why can’t people just acknowledge it was a dark time in our history, and we’ve learned from it.

People are horrible for what they did in the 1800’s? Even if it was a societal norm? This makes absolutely no sense.


Is this the thread where we pretend that the civil war ended, and then blacks and whites hugged in the streets? Gonna just pretend that blacks weren't terrorized, that Jim Crow didn't happen, and that a big chunk of white people didn't fight against basic civil rights for blacks, kicking and screaming, the entire time, definitely well into the 1960s and 1970s, and some to the current day?

You'd almost believe that black people are trying to say that their current situation was caused by events that happened in the past or something!
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
25532 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 10:05 pm to
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Gonna just pretend that blacks weren't terrorized, that Jim Crow didn't happen, and that a big chunk of white people didn't fight against basic civil rights for blacks, kicking and screaming, the entire time, definitely well into the 1960s and 1970s, and some to the current day?


I didn’t say anything about the ‘60’s and ‘70’s. I specifically mentioned a song (The Eyes of Texas), and monuments dedicated to the Civil War. It was a part of society in the South for rich whites to have slaves at work.

It’s a part of history that needs to be known. It’s important to know what went wrong so it isn’t repeated.

Shame on you for reading more into my post than was there. Stay on topic.
Posted by Buryl
Member since Sep 2016
832 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 10:10 pm to
Lol, I responded to exactly what you wrote.

And the monuments weren't put up as a cautionary tale; they were installed, in part, to lionize and glorify the Lost Cause.
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 10:11 pm to
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Because money. That’s why they played that’s why life goes on. If Sports were being played right now, none of this would be a big thing like it is.
no much bigger than that. this is soros and the like trying to create a socialist revolution. they created the circumstance of no sports. it wasn't a coincidence.
Posted by gumpinmizzou
Member since May 2017
2804 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 10:14 pm to
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It’s a part of history that needs to be known. It’s important to know what went wrong so it isn’t repeated.


Yes, it should be known so it can’t be repeated. But that can be accomplished in history books.

We don’t need monuments and songs glorifying that shameful time

ETA: Saying “things were just different” is also total bullshite. Owning other humans as property has always been pretty shitty. So things weren’t that different. People were just being shitty
This post was edited on 6/12/20 at 10:17 pm
Posted by bigberg2000
houston, from chalmette
Member since Sep 2005
70064 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 10:16 pm to
I sort of agree, but it goes both ways. I don’t know how these people feel when they see or hear these things. Just let it ride and hope we come out better on the other end. I don’t let it bother me.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
25532 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 10:18 pm to
quote:

Lol, I responded to exactly what you wrote.


No, you redirected to a completely different era.

quote:

And the monuments weren't put up as a cautionary tale; they were installed, in part, to lionize and glorify the Lost Cause.


So should sons and daughters of the Confederacy not be proud of their heritage? It’s a problem when you start erasing ancestors. I think going down that rabbit hole would lead you to some dangerous tribes in Africa. Perhaps ancestors of these African tribes (regardless of how far back we need to trace roots) should also be brought to the forefront.
Posted by gumpinmizzou
Member since May 2017
2804 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 10:19 pm to
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So should sons and daughters of the Confederacy not be proud of their heritage


Why should they? Their ancestors were treasonous and fought to preserve a pretty shitty way of life
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66826 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 10:20 pm to
Has anyone asked to cleanse the history books?

If anything they’ve been pretty white washed.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
25532 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 10:24 pm to
quote:

Saying “things were just different” is also total bullshite. Owning other humans as property has always been pretty shitty. So things weren’t that different. People were just being shitty


There’s no need for you to be ignorant. It’s too easy to sit here in 2020 and judge what was right and wrong in the 1800’s and prior. Slavery was an everyday part of life in damn near every continent. Who do you think built the Pyramids? Geez...we outta knock those things down. Yes?
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
55839 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 10:26 pm to
both sides come off poorly

on one hand, you have the BLM side saying everything is soooo horrible and unfair, which is obviously silly.

on the other, the civil rights act was signed less than 60 years ago. many of the first black people to do xyz are still alive. most black people have living relatives who had to deal with really horrible shite... and you have people from very privileged backgrounds telling them to stfu about the social injustice and atrocities that happened not all that long ago.

things aren't so black & white. no pun intended
Posted by gumpinmizzou
Member since May 2017
2804 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 10:29 pm to
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There’s no need for you to be ignorant. It’s too easy to sit here in 2020 and judge what was right and wrong in the 1800’s and prior


I am very confident in my belief that having slaves was wrong, even in the time of the pyramids. Great thing about society, we evolve and become enlightened. And we realize that our ancestors did some fricked up shite sometimes.

Just because people maybe didn’t realize they were being shitty, doesn’t mean they weren’t being shitty.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
25532 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 10:30 pm to
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Why should they? Their ancestors were treasonous and fought to preserve a pretty shitty way of life




Factory work must have been glorious.
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