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re: Youth baseball: bat that maximizes swing speed or biggest bat they can manage?

Posted on 6/22/24 at 9:08 am to
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 6/22/24 at 9:08 am to
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What do you guys think?


If your son doesn’t yet have his own custom bat, swing coach and nutritionist by now he is way behind and he will never make it to the show.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 6/22/24 at 9:11 am to
My son swings a 30 and that chart says 31”. It ain’t always right and that chart doesn’t even get into drops.
Posted by CaptSpaulding
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 6/22/24 at 9:13 am to
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Geez.... when I was 7, the coach had a green bag with 2 or 3 bats in it and you got whichever bat wasn't being used.


Yep. You just grabbed one when you were in the hole, until you finally got a decent hit. When you did, that was “your bat.” If you started sucking, you tried a new bat. I was always trying new bats.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/22/24 at 9:25 am to
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Almost all the guides online say 27”


Maybe 1% of 7 year olds weigh over 60 lbs…..You might want to look at your chart again

And the internet you can find anything you want

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A baseball bat for a 7-year-old child should be between 24 and 26 inches long.
there you go. That supports my opinion

The strongest 7 year old on our team who was a stud couldn’t swing a 27” bat correctly.
This post was edited on 6/22/24 at 9:30 am
Posted by Mumbler
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Posted on 6/22/24 at 9:28 am to
Boomer rant - we had one wood bat that was missing a chunk because it was run over by a lawnmower and had to share baseball gloves because some kids didn’t have any. A few of the guys ended up playing on scholarship in college.
Posted by ItNeverRains
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Posted on 6/22/24 at 9:44 am to
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Hype Fire baw.


It’s a rocket launcher.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
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Posted on 6/22/24 at 9:55 am to
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This goes to my point. That big barrel may maximize his production today but my theory is this isn’t best for his development. The only exception I can see is if the player really sucks, lacks confidence, and needs the “help” just to stay with the game instead of otherwise giving up.
he is seven. He gives two rat terms about development. He wants to hit it, that is it. Get on a used bat site. They will be there by the hundreds, indicative of two things. 1) they grow fast. 2) kids don’t wanna play or practice much. The bats don’t have a scratch.

Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 6/22/24 at 10:10 am to
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Almost all the guides online say 27”


Maybe 1% of 7 year olds weigh over 60 lbs…..You might want to look at your chart again



Look at the chart again. It says for 4’0 under 60 lbs a 28” bat.


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And the internet you can find anything you want


Like a bunch of dads assuring each other a cotton candy bat is best for their kids.
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
29602 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 10:18 am to
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he is seven. He gives two rat terms about development.


He’s a kid, but he did say he wants to play SS or 2B when he gets to the age where positions are assigned. I told him that in order to get on the field at that level, it takes practice. I think he gets it and wants to work at it, at least somewhat.

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He wants to hit it, that is it.


He’s hitting the ball consistently enough. If he wasn’t and was getting frustrated I wouldn’t hesitate to get a smaller/lighter bat.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
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Posted on 6/22/24 at 10:18 am to
At 8 mine had a 26/16 and he was pretty stout.
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 6/22/24 at 10:27 am to



The Easton Sweet Cotton Swatter, -24 drop. Super sized sweet spot. $350.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108415 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 10:31 am to
Maybe 1% of 7 year olds should be swinging a 27” bat and that’s being generous. Go watch any all star tournament ball this summer for 7 year olds and take a look for yourself. I’d say only 50% of 8 year olds at most are ready
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
29602 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 10:33 am to
Jon Ham’s kid:


Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108415 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 10:35 am to
Everytime we saw a Jon ham 7 year old swinging the 27” hype fire we would move the outfield in and press towards the opposite field line because here comes a kid with a late swing
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
29602 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 10:39 am to
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Maybe 1% of 7 year olds should be swinging a 27” bat and that’s being generous.


A real survey showed that well more than half are using 27”+.




My theory is that the “has to be light/maximize swing speed” crowd is contained mostly to the dads who are trying to squeeze the max production for their kid today.
This post was edited on 6/22/24 at 10:42 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108415 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 10:43 am to
The worse a team is the more kids you’ll see swinging bats far too big

And you shouldn’t trust a single thing that chart shows. A 27” drop 12 bat for the most part doesn’t even exist. Saying that’s the most common shows that chart is fake
This post was edited on 6/22/24 at 10:45 am
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 6/22/24 at 10:46 am to
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went with the baseball guides/sorta old school mentality. My son is almost 4 ft and weighs less than 60 lbs. I got him a 27 inch, -10 alloy 2 1/4 diameter bat. He has to really make a point to keep his elbow up so it doesn’t fall back in his stance, and he sometimes falls off balanced when swinging, but my theory is that as long as he stays balanced during most of his swings and can make consistent enough contact, it’s better for his development than getting him a lighter bat that maximizes his current swing speed. What do you guys think?


Form first, strength second. If his form is shite, it doesn’t matter how hard he can swing it, he won’t consistently hit it. If the bat is too heavy, get a smaller/lighter bat for him.

When my son was 6 turning 7 he was swinging a 26/17. This past year he was 7 turning 8 and had a proper enough swing to consistently swing a 28/18.

Get the mechanics right first and the pop will come. And I can’t believe this Ian the your first thought for a 7 year old.
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
29602 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 10:48 am to
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And you shouldn’t trust a single thing that chart shows. A 27” drop 12 bat for the most part doesn’t even exist. Saying that’s the most common shows that chart is fake


I think it’s safe to assume that means the average length was 27 inches and average drop was -12, not that the most common bat was a 27/-12.

The Easton Typhoon has a -12 drop all the way up to 30”. 27/-12 bats aren’t hard to find.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108415 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 10:49 am to
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The Easton Typhoon has a -12 drop all the way up to 30”. 27/-12 bats aren’t hard to find.
go walk into any store and try and find drop 12s that aren’t tee ball bats

Go look on maruccis site and see if one even exists for them

On justbats.com there are 5 TOTAL drop 12 bats that aren’t tee ball. Yet your chart says that’s the most common bat. That’s why you don’t trust the internet
This post was edited on 6/22/24 at 10:55 am
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
29602 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 10:57 am to
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Get the mechanics right first and the pop will come.


Are honing mechanics mutually exclusive with swinging a bat that doesn’t feel like a feather?

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And I can’t believe this Ian the your first thought for a 7 year old.


It wasn’t my first thought. My first thought was that he should pull his pants up to show his socks. I’m just a fan of that look. My second thought was how big of a MF bat can he handle.
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