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6.5 Creedmoor ammo for deer
Posted on 1/3/22 at 12:51 pm
Posted on 1/3/22 at 12:51 pm
I’m a newbie when it comes to hunting but have had the opportunity to hunt the last couple of years. This year I shot at a deer that was less than a hundred yards saw her jump but couldn’t find any type of blood trail or deer. The more I’ve thought I’m wondering if the ammo I’m using has played a part. I did kill a deer last year that had no exit wound. Should I get something with a ballistic tip or a lead bullet? Is it necessary to have a bullet specifically designed for whitetail? TIA.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 12:54 pm to secondandshort
You will hear a hundred different things. Everyone has a favorite. Basically do you prefer exits, then shoot bonded. Do you prefer explosion on impact, ballistic. Im a ballistic shooter.. i normally do not get exits, but i also normally dont need them as the deer is right there. Obv shot placement is all that matters no matter what you shoot. Personally i have just grown fond of ballistic tips over my years of experimenting.
Edit- also you def want a bullet designed for hunting deer with the 6.5. There is a ton of non hunting ammo out there. And in before the 6.5 pissing match "cripplemore" comments. I own one myself, killed deer with it and lost deer with it. Not a huge fan as i have other caliber rifles i just prefer over it. But it will kill deer fine.
Edit- also you def want a bullet designed for hunting deer with the 6.5. There is a ton of non hunting ammo out there. And in before the 6.5 pissing match "cripplemore" comments. I own one myself, killed deer with it and lost deer with it. Not a huge fan as i have other caliber rifles i just prefer over it. But it will kill deer fine.
This post was edited on 1/3/22 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 1/3/22 at 12:54 pm to secondandshort
What ammo have you been using?
Posted on 1/3/22 at 12:55 pm to secondandshort
What are you using now?
A ballistic tip is not the answer if you want exit holes.
A ballistic tip is not the answer if you want exit holes.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 12:57 pm to secondandshort
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Is it necessary to have a bullet specifically designed for whitetail
No, but you should be using a hunting bullet. Lately there's been a market flood of match/target/long range stuff particularly in popular calibers like 6.5 creedmoor. No exit wound makes me think that might be your problem.
Any normal soft point 140gr bullet will work fine for deer. Remington core lock, federal power shock, winchester power point, hornady interlock are all basically the same thing and work fine in 140gr. There are premium options out there as well.
Pretty much anything with a picture of a deer on the box should work fine. I prefer 140gr bullets for the 6.5's because they penetrate extremely well. I've killed a dump truck full of deer with a 6.5x55 and they have all been with regular 140 or 155 gr bullets. I even killed one with some cheapo depot 140gr PPU soft points.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 1:03 pm to TigerOnThe Hill
Thanks for the advice guys. I’ve been shooting a 130 grain PRIME ammo bullet. I used it because that’s what I was shooting when I got the rifle and practicing with. I was thinking shot placement and it wouldn’t matter. I’m worried now I may have been a little off and just wounded the deer. Makes me sick to think that I just wounded it.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 1:10 pm to secondandshort
Switch to Norma 140 grain whitetail Softpoints in my sons rifle..he’s killed two with it this year that have been DOA. I trailed several last year with Hornaday ballistic.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 1:11 pm to secondandshort
Just get some soft points
Posted on 1/3/22 at 1:14 pm to secondandshort
Be aware that, justifiable or not, the caliber has been labeled "6.5 Cripplemore" by many. A change of caliber for deer hunting might be a good move and reserve the Creedmoor for targets.
Simply offering a bit of advice, but let the down votes fly!
Simply offering a bit of advice, but let the down votes fly!
Posted on 1/3/22 at 1:24 pm to secondandshort
I shoot Hornady ELDX 147 grain
No runners so far
No runners so far
Posted on 1/3/22 at 1:31 pm to secondandshort
I used Hornady ELD 129 Gr. Never lost a deer with it in 5 years of hinting. I sold it to a buddy and he killed a big doe with it yesterday using same ammo. The ELD ammo has good expansion and deep penetration. You can get 143 gr if you prefer a little more energy.
I went back to a .308 just because ammo is a little easier to find. My son shot a 2 yr old spike yesterday evening with a 168 Gr Hornady black. Neck shot right at the shoulder at 100 yards. Dropped in its tracks.
I went back to a .308 just because ammo is a little easier to find. My son shot a 2 yr old spike yesterday evening with a 168 Gr Hornady black. Neck shot right at the shoulder at 100 yards. Dropped in its tracks.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 1:34 pm to ImaObserver
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Be aware that, justifiable or not, the caliber has been labeled "6.5 Cripplemore" by many. A change of caliber for deer hunting might be a good move and reserve the Creedmoor for targets.
This is an idiotic take. Don't listen to stupid comments like this.
Anyone that crippled a deer with the 6.5cm did one of two things. Made a bad shot or used the wrong bullet.
PERIOD.
Be aware OP. If you change your ammo, you will need to sight it in with the new ammo.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 1:37 pm to secondandshort
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been shooting a 130 grain PRIME ammo bullet
Yea, dump that shite and get a normal proven hunting load as has been mentioned. Assuming you're shooting them in the right spot, this is your problem
You fell victim to what I stated in my first post. That load uses a Sierra match king bullet. Totally unsuitable for hunting. That comment is going to bring in some idiot who loves using match target bullets for hunting. Ignore them, and get some regular ol off the shelf soft point 140gr hunting bullets.
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was thinking shot placement and it wouldn’t matter.
Shot placement matters the most all the time, but having a good hunting bullet matters as well.
This post was edited on 1/3/22 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 1/3/22 at 1:43 pm to secondandshort
I used the Hornady American Whitetail in 129 grain and got 2 boom flops. It has a pointed soft point bullet.
I used my 6.5 one season and then went back to my 40 year old rifle because I liked the M70 better than the Savage Axis. The 6.5 is a great load and I'm keeping it as a backup/loaner rifle.
I used my 6.5 one season and then went back to my 40 year old rifle because I liked the M70 better than the Savage Axis. The 6.5 is a great load and I'm keeping it as a backup/loaner rifle.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 1:49 pm to ImaObserver
8 of 22 deer on my lease have been killed/shot at by a 6.5 creedmore this season alone by 5 different hunters . 2 have run, one about 40-50 yards, the other about 100 yards. The one that ran 100, i didn’t have any blood the first 50 yards other than at shot site, but that was attributed to shot placement (high lung) took a little while for cavity to fill before it could spew blood.
I also have a tracking dog, and 100% of the time a dog is needed for either a miss or poor shot placement. I have never seen a perfect shot need a dog. The reason i bought a dog and trained it…. Poor shot with a .30-06 , 180 grain bullet that lost a buck for me.
The reason the 6.5 gets such a bad rap is because 1) a lot of new comers (kids and women especially) are shooting this round because of low recoil. A new hunter may not be as prolific with their rifle as an experienced hunter. 2) Hunters that automatically think they can shoot 300+ yards because they have a 6.5 , but yet they never practiced a shot that far.
I also have a tracking dog, and 100% of the time a dog is needed for either a miss or poor shot placement. I have never seen a perfect shot need a dog. The reason i bought a dog and trained it…. Poor shot with a .30-06 , 180 grain bullet that lost a buck for me.
The reason the 6.5 gets such a bad rap is because 1) a lot of new comers (kids and women especially) are shooting this round because of low recoil. A new hunter may not be as prolific with their rifle as an experienced hunter. 2) Hunters that automatically think they can shoot 300+ yards because they have a 6.5 , but yet they never practiced a shot that far.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 1:53 pm to ImaObserver
quote:And what is their scientific support for this?
the caliber has been labeled "6.5 Cripplemore" by many.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 2:00 pm to ImaObserver
quote:
Be aware that, justifiable or not, the caliber has been labeled "6.5 Cripplemore" by many.
It's fun to make fun of the 6.5 but if you're shooting the deer in the right spot it is more than enough rifle to kill any whitetail alive. I think the issue is a lot of flatbills think that once they buy it they're a sniper. They take long pokes that they have no business taking then blame the rifle when they wound deer.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 2:04 pm to Loup
I stopped buying “premium” bullets and have had good luck with federal power shock, albeit in a 308, I’m pretty sure you can shoot a blank from a creedmore and kill out to 3-4 hundred yards
Posted on 1/3/22 at 2:05 pm to Loup
My teenage son has killed every deer shot at with the Remington core lokt with good blood and exit. TC 6.5. Most accurate gun I ever shot.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 2:06 pm to Yukon7
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took a little while for cavity to fill before it could spew blood.
Thats not how that works. Live animals are pressurized.
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