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re: Academy : S&W : Sigma Series 9MM or .40 : $299 : OB Consensus?
Posted on 12/14/15 at 12:02 pm to Ace Midnight
Posted on 12/14/15 at 12:02 pm to Ace Midnight
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the M&P is where Smith took all the lessons from their mistake (Sigma) and made a really great "Glock" fighter.
The factory trigger in the M&P is still terrible so they didn't learn too much.
Posted on 12/14/15 at 12:04 pm to bbvdd
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The factory trigger in the M&P is still terrible so they didn't learn too much.
That reset is the reason I don't own an M&P anymore.
Slows down follow-up shots.
Posted on 12/14/15 at 12:24 pm to X123F45
if im ever in the situation where i need a firearm and all i have is my sigma, i hope i am close enough to the attacker to throw it at them. malfunctioning junk
Posted on 12/14/15 at 12:44 pm to X123F45
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Because it was when it came out originally, but they refined the design after being sued.
I know this.
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It's not based on a quality design? Please, your m&p with a reticle isn't the end all be all design.

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My sw40ve had upwards of 10k rounds through it at time of sale... Zero hiccups.
You're the lucky owner of a good one.
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Your m&p had dozens of malfunctions at my house. You blamed your reloads. When I shot your reloads out of my 19, zero failures.
Not even sure who you are. You'll have to specify when that was.
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but blindly disparaging a brand you don't like when it is an infinitely more functional design (if not refined) is foolish.
If I bashed the whole brand I wouldn't own 2 M&Ps. My dad and brother also own full sized M&Ps. I obviously don't hate S&W. I just think the Sigma sucks.
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Also, I'm back in the US if you wanna text me to shoot sometime, but I gotta warn ya, I'm faster than I was
You'll have to text me first so I can identify you.

Posted on 12/14/15 at 1:04 pm to X123F45
quote:That's hardly a statistically valid sample.
My sw40ve had upwards of 10k rounds through it at time of sale... Zero hiccups.
One "clue" regarding the quality and reliability of the Sigma/SD_VE line of pistols is that you'll not find a single major LE agency that issues them. On the other hand, Glocks and M&P's dominate the LE market.
And I seem to recall seeing reports that Marine Special Forces have adopted the Glock 19 as their sidearm.
LINK 1
And there are semi-validated rumblings that the Navy SEALS will be adopting the G19 (Author of linked thread is a SEAL and an M4Carbine.net SME).
LINK 2
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