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Anybody Ever Rent Land From Weyerhaeuser?
Posted on 5/12/17 at 9:08 am
Posted on 5/12/17 at 9:08 am
Been looking for some new hunting land and it's hard to come across any bulk acres. Weyerhaeuser seems to be the only place that I can find anything. I'm thinking about getting a lease with them but wanted to see if anybody here has dealt with them. Are they easy to deal with? Looks like all their leases are year to year which is what I want in case a better opportunity comes up.
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Posted on 5/12/17 at 9:17 am to OneEyedWillie
They are fair to deal with. I have leased from Weyerhaeuser and Plum Creek which it's all Weyerhaeuser now. Found a few pieces online and emailed the contact. The company rep set it all up. Fairly easy and cheaper per acre than local landowners.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 9:19 am to OneEyedWillie
We lease some land from Weyerhaeuser that surrounds my dad's family's land in Hale County, AL. My uncle deals with them though. I don't have any experience with dealing with them on the business/legal side, but they have never really bothered us in the years since they bought the land. I'll ask my uncle this weekend if he has had any problems with them, but I don't think so because I'm a lawyer and he's never had to ask me to review our lease or to weigh in on any situation with them
Posted on 5/12/17 at 9:19 am to OneEyedWillie
quote:Our club is currently leasing from them and they jack up the price of the lease every year. Their reasoning is that if you don't pay it there are a list of others waiting who will. Only reason I'm still in the club is because it's 15 minutes from the house. $900/year for subpar hunting in SELA is criminal. I can find a decent club in Mississippi for that price, but I'm not ready for that just yet.
Looks like all their leases are year to year which is what I want in case a better opportunity comes up.
My uncle's club leases from them in Greensburg and they really maintain the lease roads and work with the club a lot. It's the complete opposite where I'm at
Posted on 5/12/17 at 9:46 am to OneEyedWillie
Weyerhaeuser has shut down several WMAs over the last couple years and made hunting for many people unaffordable to those who wanna lease. I hunt public land mostly. Not a big fan of Weyerhaeuser. I know a few that do the leases like OP ask. Stick to the year to year thing.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 9:50 am to ForeverLSU02
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$900/year for subpar hunting in SELA is criminal. I can find a decent club in Mississippi for that price, but I'm not ready for that just yet.
Eh, it's not as easy as you think. There are still a few clubs under 1K/year in MS but unless you find the unicorn you're gonna be watching pine trees grow and feeding hogs.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 9:55 am to windshieldman
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made hunting for many people unaffordable to those who wanna lease
It's supply and demand. Weyerhaeuser is just responding to the fact that there's a ton of people who want to lease hunting land right now. As another guy said, if you aren't willing to pay the increase in any given year, there's a line of people behind you who will. They wouldn't be one of the largest landowners in the country if they were in the business of turning down free money. I don't blame them, I blame hunting getting cool again with the flatbill crowd sometime over the last decade or so. I'm hoping it's a bubble that pops soon.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 10:00 am to OneEyedWillie
Don't they make lawn mowers and weed eaters in Germany?
Posted on 5/12/17 at 10:08 am to windshieldman
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Weyerhaeuser has shut down several WMAs over the last couple years
Do they own the land Jackson/Bienville WMA was on?
If so, I passed last week and saw a camp being built with a big ole dog pen going up behind it!
Looks like dog running is back.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 10:12 am to TheDrunkenTigah
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It's supply and demand. Weyerhaeuser is just responding to the fact that there's a ton of people who want to lease hunting land right now. As another guy said, if you aren't willing to pay the increase in any given year, there's a line of people behind you who will. They wouldn't be one of the largest landowners in the country if they were in the business of turning down free money. I don't blame them, I blame hunting getting cool again with the flatbill crowd sometime over the last decade or so. I'm hoping it's a bubble that pops soon.
Oh I completely understand. Regarding Jackson Bienville, which was one of them shut down, I'm more pissed the state didn't buy it for basically nothing decades ago.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 10:13 am to REB BEER
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Do they own the land Jackson/Bienville WMA was on
They do, was one of my hunting areas. Was, was, was
Posted on 5/12/17 at 10:16 am to OneEyedWillie
Our club in AR leases 1000 acres from Weyerhaeuser; it used to be Plum Creek land until a year or two ago. They are very fair on price and rules. I just wish some of their people knew how to handle gates with two lock/pins.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 10:22 am to REB BEER
quote:Yes. Don't know how they split it up, but I know they were going to lease it in parcels.
Do they own the land Jackson/Bienville WMA was on?
quote:It is.
Looks like dog running is back.
We lease land from them and have been getting letters that it will be allowed again.
They do NOTHING for maintenance of the land we lease, but they don't gripe about anything we do, so I'm good with that.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 11:00 am to windshieldman
LDWF is the issue here unfortunately, can't really blame a private commercial timber operation for leasing out their property.
We can just be thankful that LDWF still manages to hold leases on West Bay and Clear Creek. If these two tracts were to not get renewed, that would be a major cut to the total WMA acreage in the state.
If it weren't for the remaining WMA's/FS properties in the piney woods, the public land in LA would be so crowded that everyone would be able to hold hands and sing koombaya
We can just be thankful that LDWF still manages to hold leases on West Bay and Clear Creek. If these two tracts were to not get renewed, that would be a major cut to the total WMA acreage in the state.
If it weren't for the remaining WMA's/FS properties in the piney woods, the public land in LA would be so crowded that everyone would be able to hold hands and sing koombaya
Posted on 5/12/17 at 11:09 am to Fat Neck
quote:
LDWF is the issue here unfortunately,
State law is the issue here, not LDWF.
LDWF is handcuffed by the fact that the state cannot pay more for land than it is appraised at. So, in the case of Jackson-Bienville, LDWF tried to negotiate with Weyerhaeuser, but Weyerhaeuser in the end saw more value in the land, and decided not to renew. They got what they wanted...people spent a lot of money on those leases.
This is all from discussing it with the WMA manager. He was sick to see LDWF lose that land, but in the end, there was nothing they could do.
Union WMA, which is another WMA that recently became no more, was a different story. In that case, my understanding is that the utilization, or lack thereof, was the reason for LDWF letting it go.
If the timber companies that own Clear Creek and West Bay ever realize what people would pay for leases on those areas, LDWF has no hope of maintaining them.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 11:22 am to TheDrunkenTigah
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There are still a few clubs under 1K/year in MS but unless you find the unicorn you're gonna be watching pine trees grow and feeding hogs.
This is what I figure they will be like. I've got a place to "trophy" hunt, my brothers and cousins all hunt different places and with everyone having kids now we wanted to join together and start our own camp mainly for getting the family in one place to hang out. I'm looking at Weyerhaeuser just for a temporary place to start until we can find a permanent place. I figure the hunting will be shite, but at least we have a place to for now to get together.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 11:31 am to Cowboyfan89
You think that a major timber company in this day and age hasn't realized how much money they could make off private leases?
LDWF missed the boat on acquiring ownership of large amounts of acreage for public recreation. It is what it is. The department has a tight budget and has not figured out a way to bring in more money. It won't take a very time consuming search to find a few other states that had the foresight many years ago to see the value of public recreation, and take the necessary steps to make sure great opportunities would exist in the future.
LDWF missed the boat on acquiring ownership of large amounts of acreage for public recreation. It is what it is. The department has a tight budget and has not figured out a way to bring in more money. It won't take a very time consuming search to find a few other states that had the foresight many years ago to see the value of public recreation, and take the necessary steps to make sure great opportunities would exist in the future.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 3:57 pm to Cowboyfan89
Union had plenty of usage. Slap full of coonasses shooting everything
Cutovers are like crack to a coonass. Will drive five hours to go sit in middle of s cutover to shoot a buttonhead
Cutovers are like crack to a coonass. Will drive five hours to go sit in middle of s cutover to shoot a buttonhead
Posted on 5/13/17 at 12:37 am to Fat Neck
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The department has a tight budget and has not figured out a way to bring in more money.
Even if they did, it doesn't change the fact that they can only pay what it's appraised at.
I do wish they had purchased more land, but it is what it is now.
Posted on 5/13/17 at 10:38 am to OneEyedWillie
Have a buddy who has leased from Weyerhaeuser for ~20 years in Silver Creek, MS area. (1K acres) The company rep he deals with is actually out of Baton Rouge. Weyerhaeuser maintains all the roads on the lease, seem to have a good working relationship. They aren't killing any trophies but they kill a few bucks and does annually.
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