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re: CVA Scout- 35 Whelen or 350 Legend

Posted on 8/1/24 at 4:29 pm to
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
67234 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 4:29 pm to
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nothing 'primitive' about it.


I find it hilarious that you can't use a winchester lever action .30-30 with iron sights in primitive season, but you can use a crack barrel .35 whelen with a scope.

The 30-30 is about the oldest smokeless powder rifle design you could use and a legitimate handicap vs your average dudes deer rifle. The cva scout .35 whelen is a modern designed legitimate hunt anything on the whole planet out to 300 yards bazooka. It's laughable.

It's also made it where if a louisiana guy were going to have one rifle, it's tough to argue a cva scout 35 whelen. You get a few extra weeks hunting with it and you're adequately equipped for every conceivable hunting trip on the entire plant, sans ones with 375 caliber restrictions.
Posted by Barneyrb
NELA
Member since May 2016
5559 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 7:22 pm to
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Sounds like the consensus is 35 Whelen.



See if you can find an Encore and then order a barrel, my TCE really likes Barnes TTSX in 180gr

quote:

I am interested in speaking with you about the CVA


I wouldn't mind either, where are you located?
This post was edited on 8/1/24 at 7:24 pm
Posted by A_bear
baton rouge
Member since Sep 2013
2093 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 8:02 pm to
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See if you can find an Encore and then order a barrel


I may be selling a 35 whelen encore barrel soon. I recently got my suppressor and I’m going to order a shorter, threaded barrel for my gun.
I love my 35 whelen, when covid hit and I couldn’t find ammo, I started loading my own. I’m shooting a 200gr hammer bullet roughly 2900fps. Far from primitive. When I get the extra funds I plan to build a left handed bolt action 35 whelen, but it’s going to be in the $6k range, so probably next season lol
Posted by The Levee
Bat Country
Member since Feb 2006
11115 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 8:04 pm to
I have the 35 and I cannot keep a scope zeroed. No matter what rings
Posted by Tight 10
Member since Nov 2021
345 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 8:30 pm to
Man I love a 30-30. I’ve got a 1976 Marlin put a scope on it and shoot the Leverevolutions from Hornady and it’s a tac driver. Hammers deer
Posted by tke_swamprat
Houma, LA
Member since Aug 2004
10048 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 8:34 pm to
I have a CVA 35 Whelen. Great gun. Very loud if you forget to put your ear protection on….
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
67234 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 8:39 pm to
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have the 35 and I cannot keep a scope zeroed. No matter what rings


It's probably the scope. I've had a nikon 2-7 completely crap out on a .375 h&h. There's lots of scopes out there that can't take a beating.
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
11188 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 9:01 pm to
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I find it hilarious that you can't use a winchester lever action .30-30 with iron sights in primitive season, but you can use a crack barrel .35 whelen with a scope.
I have a model 94 30wcf from 1933 that is illegal to use during primitive. Meanwhile ole baw down the road is shooting deer at 250 yds with a legal primitive weapon. It’s a joke
Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
6941 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 11:47 pm to
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The 350 legend was made for midwestern states that limit primitive to straight walled cartridges. If you don’t hunt in those states there is zero reason to get it over the 35 whelen.

OTOH, if there's a chance you might hunt in AR, the 350 Legend would be a good choice. Beginning this year, AR is changing their "muzzleloader" season to an "alternative firearm" season that will allow using straight walled cartridges like the 350 Legend and many others.
Posted by REB BEER
Laffy Yet
Member since Dec 2010
16567 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 9:06 am to
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I have the 35 and I cannot keep a scope zeroed. No matter what rings


Is it an H&R? I have one and missed 3 deer opening morning several years back. Finally hit one, I was aiming at the shoulder and hit it in the neck. Got home and went to take the gun out the back seat and the scope moved. After further inspection realized the rail was loose on the gun. I loc-tited the screws down and haven't missed one since. I never had thought about it because it came installed from the factory.
Posted by mrcoon
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2019
578 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 9:29 am to
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I have the 35 and I cannot keep a scope zeroed. No matter what rings


35 Whelen? What gun? Please be specific.

The very first CVA Scouts had a problem with destroying scopes. The problem was more that the guns were too light and people were wanting to shoot 225-250 grain bullets paired with cheap scopes. A lot of guys were buying DNZ one piece mounts and air rifle scopes to combat the problem. I bought the CVA Apex in 35 Whelen because it didn't have that problem. Just to be safe, I put a DNZ mount on it straight away. The same scope has been on that gun since 2012, zero issues. It is the most accurate rifle I own. At 100 yards all my bullets touch with 180gr Barnes TTSX.

The newer CVA Scouts have a much heaver barrel and come with a good base. The corrected version of the Scout was called the Scout II. In recent years they have gone back to just calling them Scouts.
Posted by mcpotiger
Missouri
Member since Mar 2005
7692 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 11:11 am to
I have the 35 Whelen CVA Scout. Have a Leupold sitting on it. Its the only rifle I hunt with now. I shoot Barnes VOR-TX 180 Grain . Most of my shots are 200 yards or less. Its a killing machine. I don't have any experience with the 350 but you cant go wrong with the 35 IMO.
Posted by Tear It Up
The Deadening
Member since May 2005
13592 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 12:14 pm to
Thanks to all of the suggestions, I just bought a 35 Whelen with muzzle brake and topped it with a Leupold Freedom 4-12x40

Got a box of Hornady 200 and Barnes 180 to take to the range.
Posted by LSUDAN1
Member since Oct 2010
9482 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 4:55 pm to
I have a CVA Scout with Muzzlebrake with DNZ rings with a Vortex Crossfire II Scope. Once I got it dialed in, it shoots great. Barely kicks but make sure you have hearing protection on at all times.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
67234 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 8:56 pm to
Try it with the brake off. The recoil isn't bad and the reduction in muzzle blast is well worth it. You can feel those things behind your eyeballs with the brake on it.
Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
6941 posts
Posted on 8/3/24 at 10:34 pm to
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I have the 35 and I cannot keep a scope zeroed. No matter what rings

Are you having a problem w/ a scope failure or is the scope moving in the rings?
Posted by Squirrelmeister
Member since Nov 2021
2382 posts
Posted on 8/3/24 at 11:35 pm to
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The cartridge kicks less that a Whelen and damages less meat. But no reason to use it in places with smaller deer?

The 350 legend is a legit 100 yard hunting round. If you think you might shoot a deer at 125 or 150 yards, get the Whelen. Way more versatile. If you or your kid is more than say 10 years old, you’ll have no problems handling the recoil.
Posted by The Levee
Bat Country
Member since Feb 2006
11115 posts
Posted on 8/4/24 at 8:04 am to
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Are you having a problem w/ a scope failure or is the scope moving in the rings?


Just knocking it off zero
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17529 posts
Posted on 8/4/24 at 9:28 am to
The 35 isn’t night and day different from a 30-06 in recoil as long as you’re not using really heavy bullets. If you’re using a solid set of rings torqued to the right settings, understand parallax adjustment and how it can shift zero, and are still seeing the zero move then it’s time for a new scope.
Posted by Turner River Terror
Member since Apr 2022
269 posts
Posted on 8/4/24 at 8:18 pm to

I have apparently a Rare CVA Scout.
Stainless , Camo 35 Remington. I can't find them on Gun broker or anywhere else.
It's like They were never made. I Love that little daisy BB gun that shoots 200 grain stompers.
Noting has ever ran away form it...just sayin
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