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Gun Review: Savage Bolt Action Rifle in 17 WSM
Posted on 6/7/20 at 3:45 pm
Posted on 6/7/20 at 3:45 pm
Hey guys,
My brother in law recently bought a new gun. He offered me the opportunity wo play with it in preparation for an upcoming prairie dog hunt. The gun’s actual name is the Savage B Mag Target Bolt Action in 17 Winchester Super Magnum. Like the 17 HMR, the 17 WSM is a rimfire round. But the WSM pushes a 20 caliber bullet to 3000 fps, about 500 fps faster than the HMR. He bought the gun for prairie dog hunting. He attached a Leupold 4.5-14X scope to it. It’s a nice looking gun with a gray, thumbhole, laminate stock. The stock forend has three long cuts for ventilation of the barrel. The gun uses a plastic, rotary magazine with an 8 round capacity. The B Mag action is more robust than the usual Savage rimfire action. The bolt works fairly smoothly, although when uncocking the action, the bolt seems to jump upwards. Although it has the adjustable Accu-trigger, I left it alone since it already broke cleanly at 3.5#. The unthreaded barrel is stainless steel, fairly heavy and is 22” long. It’s a nice looking gun to me, although I’m sure some won’t like it.
Using the two boxes of ammo he supplied, I found the gun to be very accurate. Both loads use the 20 grain Hornady V-Max bullet. I was surprised to see the American Eagle was more accurate than the Winchester Elite. Once it was on target, I shot some groups at 100 yards using a bipod in front and a small sand bag at the rear. The main weakness of the 17’s is the wind; fortunately my shooting range is well protected.
17 HMR for comparison to the 17 WSM.
The makings of a nice afternoon shoot.
The Winchester round was pretty accurate. The flyer opened it up to 1.27.”
The Federal load was very accurate. I used the Federal load to sight in so I didn’t have many rounds left to shoot at 100 yds, hence the 3 shot group.
The gun shot very good on the pd hunt, as long as the wind was fairly quiet. Sighted in 1” high at 100 yards, it was only 4-5” low at 200 yards. I wouldn’t expect to shoot it further than that. Terminal performance was adequate as long as the shot was good.
All in all, it’s a nice gun with quality ammo. I’m not real fond of the feel of the bolt when uncocking the action, but that’s a personal. I’m considering getting one, but presently the only makers of 17 WMS rifles are Savage and Ruger. I’ll wait a little while to see if CZ or Tikka jump on the band wagon.
My brother in law recently bought a new gun. He offered me the opportunity wo play with it in preparation for an upcoming prairie dog hunt. The gun’s actual name is the Savage B Mag Target Bolt Action in 17 Winchester Super Magnum. Like the 17 HMR, the 17 WSM is a rimfire round. But the WSM pushes a 20 caliber bullet to 3000 fps, about 500 fps faster than the HMR. He bought the gun for prairie dog hunting. He attached a Leupold 4.5-14X scope to it. It’s a nice looking gun with a gray, thumbhole, laminate stock. The stock forend has three long cuts for ventilation of the barrel. The gun uses a plastic, rotary magazine with an 8 round capacity. The B Mag action is more robust than the usual Savage rimfire action. The bolt works fairly smoothly, although when uncocking the action, the bolt seems to jump upwards. Although it has the adjustable Accu-trigger, I left it alone since it already broke cleanly at 3.5#. The unthreaded barrel is stainless steel, fairly heavy and is 22” long. It’s a nice looking gun to me, although I’m sure some won’t like it.
Using the two boxes of ammo he supplied, I found the gun to be very accurate. Both loads use the 20 grain Hornady V-Max bullet. I was surprised to see the American Eagle was more accurate than the Winchester Elite. Once it was on target, I shot some groups at 100 yards using a bipod in front and a small sand bag at the rear. The main weakness of the 17’s is the wind; fortunately my shooting range is well protected.
17 HMR for comparison to the 17 WSM.

The makings of a nice afternoon shoot.

The Winchester round was pretty accurate. The flyer opened it up to 1.27.”

The Federal load was very accurate. I used the Federal load to sight in so I didn’t have many rounds left to shoot at 100 yds, hence the 3 shot group.

The gun shot very good on the pd hunt, as long as the wind was fairly quiet. Sighted in 1” high at 100 yards, it was only 4-5” low at 200 yards. I wouldn’t expect to shoot it further than that. Terminal performance was adequate as long as the shot was good.
All in all, it’s a nice gun with quality ammo. I’m not real fond of the feel of the bolt when uncocking the action, but that’s a personal. I’m considering getting one, but presently the only makers of 17 WMS rifles are Savage and Ruger. I’ll wait a little while to see if CZ or Tikka jump on the band wagon.
Posted on 6/7/20 at 7:04 pm to TigerOnThe Hill
Great review as always TOTH
Posted on 6/7/20 at 7:25 pm to TigerOnThe Hill
I wish someone would come out with a reasonably priced semiautomatic in 17 WSM. It’s a fun round to shoot.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 6:36 am to TigerOnThe Hill
I know that round uses a necked down casing from a nail set gun, is there a .22 round that uses that casing? I know it would be slower, but it would be heavier and a little more stable in a breeze.
You said you were surprised about that American Eagle ammo being so good, The American Eagle 50 grain JHP is absolutely what shoots best in my AR.
I wish Savage would stick with the box type magazine though, My A22mag uses the rotary mags and they are really more of a pain in the butt to load IMO.
You said you were surprised about that American Eagle ammo being so good, The American Eagle 50 grain JHP is absolutely what shoots best in my AR.
I wish Savage would stick with the box type magazine though, My A22mag uses the rotary mags and they are really more of a pain in the butt to load IMO.
This post was edited on 6/8/20 at 6:54 am
Posted on 6/8/20 at 6:47 am to TigerOnThe Hill
quote:Grain?
20 caliber bullet
Posted on 6/8/20 at 7:06 am to auggie
quote:
I wish Savage would stick with the box type magazine though, My A22mag uses the rotary mags and they are really more of a pain in the butt to load IMO.
I have a Savage in .17HMR. It has the box magazine and it's the worst design they could have possibly come up with. If you put the rifle sling on your shoulder the catch for the magazine digs into your back. Absolutely horrible.
I'd much rather play with this. The 10/22 has perfected the rotary mag, hopefully Savage copied their design.
Alx, Yes, he meant 20 grain.
TOTH, how much more potent is this over the .17 hmr?
This post was edited on 6/8/20 at 7:07 am
Posted on 6/8/20 at 7:13 am to bbvdd
quote:
I have a Savage in .17HMR. It has the box magazine and it's the worst design they could have possibly come up with. If you put the rifle sling on your shoulder the catch for the magazine digs into your back. Absolutely horrible.
We've discussed this before, and I agree with you about the catch, but it seems to me that would have been an easier thing to fix. If they copied CZs catch design, it would be perfect. I have several Savage rifles that have the box mags, and I prefer them to the rotary.
quote:
how much more potent is this over the .17 hmr?
He said he was only getting about 5" of drop with that round at 200 yards, that's pretty dang good for a rimfire. I shot a big bird once at about 140 yards with my .17hmr, I put the crosshairs on it's head, and the round hit him at the bottom of his throat, so 5 inch drop at 200 sounds quite a bit better.
This post was edited on 6/8/20 at 7:37 am
Posted on 6/8/20 at 8:28 am to auggie
quote:
e've discussed this before, and I agree with you about the catch, but it seems to me that would have been an easier thing to fix. If they copied CZs catch design, it would be perfect. I have several Savage rifles that have the box mags, and I prefer them to the rotary.
We have, I just hate it so much.

Posted on 6/8/20 at 10:41 am to AlxTgr
quote:
20 caliber bullet
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Grain?
Whoops! You read it better than I proofed it.

Posted on 6/8/20 at 10:51 am to bbvdd
quote:
how much more potent is this over the .17 hmr?
•17 WSM 20 grain: 3000 FPS. Energy: 400 ft-lbs
•17 HMR 17 grain: 2550 FPS. Energy: 245 ft-lbs
Posted on 6/8/20 at 11:17 am to TigerOnThe Hill
thanks for sharing that review brother
My passion is custom rifles that are chambered in small caliber wildcats (.17 and .20 calibers). They are extremely efficient and scary accurate. My 17 Ackley Hornet pet load, 11.5 grs. of N120 under a 20 gr Vmax yields 3850 fps. That's approx. 600 loadings from a pound of powder.

Posted on 6/8/20 at 3:41 pm to Got Blaze
As I've come to expect, that's a nice looking gun, Blaze.
Do you have a 20 VarTarg?

Posted on 6/8/20 at 3:58 pm to TigerOnThe Hill
yes, along with a few other custom rifles
.17 Mk2
.17 HMR
.17 AH
.17 Mk IV
.17 Little Nasty (2 of 'em)
.17 HeBee
.20 Beggs
.20 Killer Bee
.20 VarTarg
Little Nasty
HMR


.17 Mk2
.17 HMR
.17 AH
.17 Mk IV
.17 Little Nasty (2 of 'em)
.17 HeBee
.20 Beggs
.20 Killer Bee
.20 VarTarg
Little Nasty
HMR

Posted on 6/8/20 at 5:16 pm to Got Blaze
I'm pretty proud of myself as I only had to look up the names of 4 of your aforementioned guns! I've been talking about doing this for a few years now, but this time I'm really gonna do it: This winter I'm installing a 16" 20 VarTarg barrel on a Savage Striker bolt handgun. It's currently got a 308 Win barrel on it. I've been really close to buying the barrel, but didn't get around to it. I've already bought Lapua brass. What kind of velocity do you get w/ your VarTag in your rifle?
Posted on 6/8/20 at 5:34 pm to TigerOnThe Hill
20 VarTarg : 18.5 grs of H4198 under a 32gr Sierra . Velocity @ 3750 fps
rifle I helped design and build for a friend

rifle I helped design and build for a friend

Posted on 6/8/20 at 8:24 pm to swanny297
quote:
Savage A17
I don't think it is available in .17wsm, just .17hmr.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 11:49 am to Got Blaze
Nice looking gun.
If you've not tried Hodgdon CFEBLK in your VT, I'd suggest giving it a go. Compared to my gold standard powder of IMR 4227 in my 221 Fireball, CFEBLK is just as accurate, may have an extra 50-100 fps velocity, is supposed to burn cleaner and meters as well. I've got about 5# of 4227 left so I may have a hard decision to make in the future.
ETA: Looks like I should be able to get 3400-3500 fps from a 16" barrel.

quote:
20 VarTarg : 18.5 grs of H4198 under a 32gr Sierra . Velocity @ 3750 fps
If you've not tried Hodgdon CFEBLK in your VT, I'd suggest giving it a go. Compared to my gold standard powder of IMR 4227 in my 221 Fireball, CFEBLK is just as accurate, may have an extra 50-100 fps velocity, is supposed to burn cleaner and meters as well. I've got about 5# of 4227 left so I may have a hard decision to make in the future.
ETA: Looks like I should be able to get 3400-3500 fps from a 16" barrel.
This post was edited on 6/9/20 at 11:53 am
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