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Posted on 7/31/24 at 1:11 pm to No Colors
Many jews said similar things about hitker
Posted on 7/31/24 at 1:19 pm to Sixafan
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Harris WILL take away our guns
You can't honestly believe this right?
Posted on 7/31/24 at 1:32 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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You can't honestly believe this right?
I believe that she and many democrats absolutely want to.
Posted on 7/31/24 at 1:41 pm to cgrand
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scare tactics to mobilize her base.
the 2nd amendment isn’t going anywhere…
If they were smart they will attempt to achieve their aims with ammo restrictions and leaning on the ammo manufacturers. It has really already started.
Posted on 7/31/24 at 1:54 pm to Sixafan
Ok, lets say this commie bitch wins the presidency and she invokes an "assault" weapon ban and confiscation via executive order. Who's going to come to my house and take my gun? It won't be the local law enforcement and the ATF would be committing suicide if they try.
Posted on 7/31/24 at 2:11 pm to Sixafan
quote:yes, that horse has long left the barn. more likely would be a 10 round magazine max, which hunters (and target shooters) would be hard pressed to reasonably argue against as an impediment to common use. existing 25+ round mags would not be confiscated
An Ar is a common use weapon. Thousands are used for hunting. Thousands for target shooting. Millions for self defense.
ya might not like it, but you can live with it, until it's eventually repealed.
wash/rinse/repeat
no gnashing of teeth or rending of garments required
Posted on 7/31/24 at 2:22 pm to cgrand
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the 2nd amendment isn’t going anywhere…
So says the Fudds.
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Barack Obama was the greatest gun salesman there ever was. And he did nothing. Biden did nothing. Bill Clinton pass the “assault weapons” ban and it did nothing (we all survived just fine with grandfathered items). There are so many millions of in-jeopardy firearms and mags in circulation now that it would be nigh impossible for there to be any meaningful or noticeable change in mine or your firearm habits.
This such an ignorant, narrow-viewed take. Ignorant in that Obama substantially did nothing BECAUSE he was effectively stymied by Congress. He did nothing because nothing was on his desk to sign from Congress, but he did sign an Executive Order that stripped 2A rights from certain veterans (that was removed by a Trump EO and basically put back in place by the current administration your assertion that Biden has done nothing is bullshite too). Obama's ATF and its legacy administrators have done a lot and while the ATF has been on a losing streak recently, they have done a lot of damage to small FFL's and effectively put hundreds out of business. The 1994 - 2004 AWB has been a legacy policy that still impacts states that cling to such laws and those states are trying to strengthen such laws (e.g. Massachuesetts enhance AWB that was recently signed into law, and pending H.2361 that is a stated ban on all semi-automatic firearms). Completely ignorant and idiotic to say the Clinton-era AWB "did nothing".
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there is nothing nefarious about a background check.
That's because you are clueless and probably think the NICS and the Brady Bill actually somehow effectively prevent felons and the mentally ill from acquiring guns anyway (it doesn't). The fact that states like California are figuring out they can use Red Flag Laws (ERPO's) to go after people that aren't even citizens of their states because the NICS is a Federal device and as such a false ERPO filed in CA can effectively flag a person in TX. But who needs due process? Not to mention the ATF is known to be violating Federal law by using the NICS to develop an electronic database of gun owners.
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As far another ban, honestly I don’t care. If you are prudent you already have what you want.
Of course you don't care, unthinking shitheads seldom consider such a thing because why should future adults be able to exercise an individual civil right like the generation before? Moron.
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the idea that this country “can’t survive” an administration led by the opposition part is a republican construct, nothing more as history so often demonstrates.
Of course a low-IQ dolt like you doesn't know a damn thing about history, gun laws...
Posted on 7/31/24 at 2:26 pm to civiltiger07
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I believe that she and many democrats absolutely want to.
And I absolutely wanted to bone Jessica Alba *before I got married in case Mrs. Iwy is reading*, doesn't mean it was ever going to happen.
Posted on 7/31/24 at 2:27 pm to Clames
now THAT is a melt
all that childish histrionics and name calling make you feel better now?
might be time for a nap
all that childish histrionics and name calling make you feel better now?
might be time for a nap
Posted on 7/31/24 at 2:33 pm to Clames
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gnorant in that Obama substantially did nothing BECAUSE he was effectively stymied by Congress
Obama never wanted to take guns away. At one point he supported a ban on assault rifles but he was never trying to take our guns away.
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Obama, Sept. 9, 2008: I just want to be absolutely clear, alright. So I don’t want any misunderstanding. When ya’ll go home and you’re talking to your buddies, and they say, “Ah, he wants to take my gun away,” you’ve heard it here — I’m on television so everybody knows it — I believe in the Second Amendment. I believe in people’s lawful right to bear arms. I will not take your shotgun away. I will not take your rifle away. I won’t take your handgun away. … So, there are some common-sense gun safety laws that I believe in. But I am not going to take your guns away. So if you want to find an excuse not to vote for me, don’t use that one. Cause that just ain’t true.
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Obama, March 13, 2011: I know some aren’t interested in participating. Some will say that anything short of the most sweeping anti-gun legislation is a capitulation to the gun lobby. Others will predictably cast any discussion as the opening salvo in a wild-eyed scheme to take away everybody’s guns. And such hyperbole will become the fodder for overheated fundraising letters.
But I have more faith in the American people than that. Most gun-control advocates know that most gun owners are responsible citizens. Most gun owners know that the word “commonsense” isn’t a code word for “confiscation.” And none of us should be willing to remain passive in the face of violence or resigned to watching helplessly as another rampage unfolds on television.
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Obama, Oct. 16, 2012: So my belief is that, a., we have to enforce the laws we’ve already got, make sure that we’re keeping guns out of the hands of criminals, those who are mentally ill. We’ve done a much better job in terms of background checks, but we’ve got more to do when it comes to enforcement.
But I also share your belief that weapons that were designed for soldiers in war theaters don’t belong on our streets. And so what I’m trying to do is to get a broader conversation about how do we reduce the violence generally. Part of it is seeing if we can get an assault weapons ban reintroduced, but part of it is also looking at other sources of the violence — because, frankly, in my hometown of Chicago there’s an awful lot of violence, and they’re not using AK-47s, they’re using cheap handguns.
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Obama, July 25, 2012: But I also believe that a lot of gun owners would agree that AK-47s belong in the hands of soldiers, not in the hands of criminals — that they belong on the battlefield of war, not on the streets of our cities. I believe the majority of gun owners would agree that we should do everything possible to prevent criminals and fugitives from purchasing weapons; that we should check someone’s criminal record before they can check out a gun seller; that a mentally unbalanced individual should not be able to get his hands on a gun so easily. These steps shouldn’t be controversial. They should be common sense.
Posted on 7/31/24 at 2:39 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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They should be common sense.
Those are the words of a bullshitter.
Posted on 7/31/24 at 2:41 pm to cgrand
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all that childish histrionics and name calling make you feel better now?
might be time for a nap
If that's all you get from your schooling. I mean, I guess you at least own your ignorance here which is a good thing.
Posted on 7/31/24 at 2:48 pm to cgrand
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i find it pretty humorous that the "give an inch they'll take a mile" argument is so frequent when it comes to gun rights
without asking you if you agree with gun control or not, my only question to you is.....are there more lists that gun owners names on it now, or 50 years ago?
Posted on 7/31/24 at 2:49 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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Obama never wanted to take guns away. At one point he supported a ban on assault rifles but he was never trying to take our guns away.
Are you sure?
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I believe in people’s lawful right to bear arms. I will not take your shotgun away. I will not take your rifle away. I won’t take your handgun away
Yeah, your pump-action or breach-loading shotgun. Your bolt-action or level-action rifle. Your revolver or C&R semi-auto. You may not have the age or the historical understanding required to really understand this topic but those of us who do know this stuff can read between the lines, especially when we've seen these lines for 40+ years and then see what policies are pushed behind them.
He supported mandatory buy-backs and other governmentally back confiscatory policies on firearms, so whatever he said (that you seem to have bought into without really understanding) is pretty much bullshite. This is the same guy that said "if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor" too.
Posted on 7/31/24 at 3:40 pm to Clames
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Are you sure?
Yes, and in 8 years he never came close. Did he take yours away?
Posted on 7/31/24 at 3:46 pm to Sixafan
Take em away from the crims not the law abiding citizens. fricking commies
Posted on 7/31/24 at 3:51 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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Yes, and in 8 years he never came close. Did he take yours away?
The point you are missing, badly, is that just because he was minimally effective (because yes, he signed EO's that effectively barred ownership for certain veterans) that he was benign enough to ignore. Sorry, your lack of education and naivete on this subject doesn't carry any weight against the main thrust of the point the OP is making. If local police can outright defy court decisions to continue to enforce laws ruled unconstitutional by the US Supreme Court, I don't put anything out of the realm of possibility by someone elected to the highest executive office.
Posted on 7/31/24 at 4:05 pm to Sixafan
I hate election time because it always "they will come and get our guns". But that comment along probably helps increase N.R.A. membership and double the price of guns and ammo. Especially when Demo is running.
Posted on 7/31/24 at 4:09 pm to Clames
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Sorry, your lack of education and naivete on this subject doesn't carry any weight against the main thrust of the point the OP is making.
I love that you can't make a post without talking about the other persons education level. We get it, you think you're smarter than everyone.
The OP has already flip flopped on the point he was trying to make. He went from "Harris WILL take your guns away" to "Harris WANTS to take your guns away". I'm not arguing that she wouldn't want to. I'm simply saying that it's not going to happen. You can cry and bitch and be scared about it, which just based on the few pages here, you probably have for the past 12 years. But that doesn't change the fact that it isn't going to happen.
This post was edited on 7/31/24 at 4:23 pm
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