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I am starting to think Hogfish are just a myth

Posted on 5/12/23 at 7:02 am
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
66379 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 7:02 am
Been out 4 times on different numbers trying to catch one of these elusive bitches. Nothing. I have caught every other fish in the damn gulf while trying but nada on the Hogfish.

Spent 9 hours out on Wednesday. 12 species, not one of them a Hogfish.


I will try again on Sunday, If I get nothing, I will just stick to sabiki'ing for pinfish.

/rant




For those that dont know, these two are hogfish.


This post was edited on 5/12/23 at 7:02 am
Posted by BeerThirty
Red Stick
Member since May 2017
951 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 7:07 am to
Sure are two hawgs in that pic!
On another note, I don’t think I ever caught one the times I’ve fished in the keys. Only shot them diving, and it seemed like every one was off the reef 40-50’. But I think that’s one of those 1st world fishing problems, “12 species”! Jealous as a mofo here.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
22381 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 8:07 am to
Upvote for the pic. We don’t get them really in the northern gulf coast where most of us are located so it not sure how much help you will get?

Seems like they are somewhat like black snapper in that people generally target them specifically when fishing for them. Not just general reef bottom bumping.
Posted by DownSouthDave
Member since Jan 2013
7476 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 8:13 am to
Don't catch them often fishing. Jump in and stick one, they are dumb.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
66379 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 9:16 am to
quote:

We don’t get them really in the northern gulf coast where most of us are located so it not sure how much help you will get?




They are around here. Some of the guides are catching him every day. Basically using a dropshot with shrimp or a hog ball with shrimp. Same areas that I'm fishing in general. Some of the numbers that I used came from one of the guides. I just have not been lucky enough to get on them when they're around those areas I guess. But we will keep trying.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
37658 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 9:48 am to
I believe they are attracted to mammary glands.
Posted by El Tigre Grande
Bayou Self
Member since Jan 2006
2583 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 11:08 am to
Nice snapper
The hogs are nice too...
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
70147 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 11:27 am to
quote:

Don't catch them often fishing. Jump in and stick one, they are dumb.


I knew a spearfisherman once, he shot them all the time on reefs, where a hundred people would be fishing and not catch a single one.
Posted by DownSouthDave
Member since Jan 2013
7476 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 11:36 am to
I don't think the eat a lot of what people are typically using for bait. They dig in the sand looking for small critters and crabs. Not sure what a hog ball is, but probably a good bet. And like what another poster said, I've mostly shot them on sand bottoms, adjacent to reefs.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
66379 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 11:46 am to
quote:

Not sure what a hog ball is,





A hog ball rig is this. It's basically a weight with a hook on a free swing. It's saltwater version of a swing rig. You could even consider it a jighead replacement. Since we are required to have a circle hook while fishing for reef fish, this gives you that. At this time, I dont think there is a company who makes a circle hook for jigheads. I have been looking for my own company. cant find one


You basically put a shrimp or two on there and put it on the bottom for the hogs From what I have found, that or the basically knocker rig with a couple of 8mm beads is the preferred rig.



Posted by DownSouthDave
Member since Jan 2013
7476 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 12:32 pm to
quote:

A hog ball rig is this


Learn something new every day.
Posted by D500MAG
Oklahoma
Member since Oct 2010
3828 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 1:12 pm to
four hogfish and a snapper
Posted by skuter
P'ville
Member since Jan 2005
6198 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 3:42 pm to
The hog on the right looks bigger than the hog
on the left
Posted by FutureMikeVIII
Houston
Member since Sep 2011
1407 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 7:44 pm to
quote:

these two are hogfish.

Ok, but what kind of fish are those four?
Posted by ecb
Member since Jul 2010
9716 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 8:56 pm to
Those are fake
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
23304 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 9:46 pm to
She's cheating with that stink bait between her legs

It's like chum
This post was edited on 5/12/23 at 9:47 pm
Posted by riverdiver
Summerville SC
Member since May 2022
2146 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 9:52 am to
Hard to catch hog fish on rod/reel, mist are speared.

Guy I know who targets them off the SC coast uses chunks of spiny lobster tails, he has fairly good luck.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
11066 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 10:13 am to
They tend to be off structure or at least caught off structure compared to most reef fish (spearing them is a whole different story from what I have been told). A mutton rig will catch them and big mutton both...if you're boat is on the reef you are too close...idea is to drift past the reef with your bait 30 feet or so beyond the swivel and sinker...and use the lightest sinker that allows it to maintain contact with the bottom. Start drift up current and drift the reef in all directions but not directly over it...it is supposed to put the fish down or at least not interested in being aggressive enough to feed with a boat shadow over them. The other reef species seem not to be put off by the boat but supposedly Muttons and Hawgfish will be less likely to feed if the boat shadow is directly on the reef...but when the boat is not near the reef suddenly they are as aggressive as the rest. I do not know that this is so but I know it works...especially on Muttons but I have caught a lot of hogfish while targeting mutton in this way. Its also a good way to beat sharks when they are eating everything coming up because the fish are off the structure and the sharks are concentrated on the structure.
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