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Is this the correct masonary mortar mix to have a brick ledge installed?
Posted on 8/1/17 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 8/1/17 at 4:11 pm
Type N mortar
This is the ledge that will be bricked.
Looking to do a ledge similar to this style.
This is the ledge that will be bricked.
Looking to do a ledge similar to this style.
This post was edited on 8/1/17 at 4:14 pm
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Posted on 8/1/17 at 4:19 pm to Cow Drogo
That will work. It's not the best but it will do.
And it's a brick border, not a ledge. Brick ledge is something different.
And it's a brick border, not a ledge. Brick ledge is something different.
Posted on 8/1/17 at 5:37 pm to LSUballs
Ok thanks
I appreciate it.
I'm glad it will do because I already have it at my home.
Just curious,
What would be best option in your opinion?(link please)
I appreciate it.
I'm glad it will do because I already have it at my home.
Just curious,
What would be best option in your opinion?(link please)
This post was edited on 8/1/17 at 5:38 pm
Posted on 8/1/17 at 5:43 pm to Cow Drogo
Type N mortar is for load bearing masonry work above grade, interior or exterior--general purpose. Will it be driven on by vehicles? If so, may want to look for Type S mortar (stronger).
Type S @ Home Depot
Type S @ Home Depot
This post was edited on 8/1/17 at 5:45 pm
Posted on 8/1/17 at 6:42 pm to Cow Drogo
Type S would be a little stronger but the type N you have in that application will be perfectly fine. Use it with no worries. But as far as workability/troweling, that Quickrete mix (and most pre mixed sand/cements) is more sandy than what a brick mason would typically use. To combat the extra sand I would buy a sack of regular mason cement without the sand and add about half a shovel per bag of that mix. But that is just my preference. You don't have to.
Posted on 8/1/17 at 6:50 pm to LSUballs
Thanks. And no it will not be driven on.
In may put a small boat on trailer on that slab behind the shed but I won't roll on the bricks.
It's mainly a back patio area of just foot traffic.
This post was edited on 8/1/17 at 6:53 pm
Posted on 8/1/17 at 8:41 pm to Cow Drogo
Ever how many bags of it you have, get 10 more...
Posted on 8/2/17 at 7:04 am to Duckhammer_77
How much of a strength difference are we talking?
Is it worth loading all of the 35 bags I have bought, and bringing them back to Home Depot to switch for the type S? The guy is supposed to come install bricks for me sometime this week.
(I live 30 minutes from Home Depot and It would take me 2 trips, loading 18 bags and 17 bags in my Tacoma)
Is it worth loading all of the 35 bags I have bought, and bringing them back to Home Depot to switch for the type S? The guy is supposed to come install bricks for me sometime this week.
(I live 30 minutes from Home Depot and It would take me 2 trips, loading 18 bags and 17 bags in my Tacoma)
Posted on 8/2/17 at 8:00 am to Cow Drogo
Type S has more portland cement and is stronger than type N
It probably won't make a difference if there won't be vehicle traffic on it but it will be prone to cracking if someone does take a turn wide.Most of the time brick laid in the wall is laid with Type N and brick laid on the ground is laid in Type S.
Also, I don't know the Home Depot policy but mortar is a perishable product so they may not even take returns on it
It probably won't make a difference if there won't be vehicle traffic on it but it will be prone to cracking if someone does take a turn wide.Most of the time brick laid in the wall is laid with Type N and brick laid on the ground is laid in Type S.
Also, I don't know the Home Depot policy but mortar is a perishable product so they may not even take returns on it
Posted on 8/2/17 at 8:02 am to redneck
Would you return it if your could?
Will be enormous pain to swap
Will be enormous pain to swap
Posted on 8/2/17 at 8:09 am to Cow Drogo
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Would you return it if your could?
nah you should be fine with that concrete beneath it, just don't make a habit of driving/parking on it
Posted on 8/2/17 at 8:10 am to Cow Drogo
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worth loading all of the 35 bags I have bought, and bringing them back to Home Depot to switch for the type S
Hell no. But I would do what Balls said and grab a few bags of pure mortar cement to mix with the ready mix stuff. I have found that usually those mixes are weaker than one would normally mix it. And the weak mix isn't only a strength issue but a workability issue as well. Trying to deal with a concrete or mortar mix that has too little cement is a PITA. However those pre-mix bags may suit the bricklayer just fine so you can take back the pure bags at the end of the job.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 8:12 am to Chuker
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Hell no. But I would do what Balls said and grab a few bags of pure mortar cement to mix with the ready mix stuff. I have found that usually those mixes are weaker than one would normally mix it. And the weak mix isn't only a strength issue but a workability issue as well. Trying to deal with a concrete or mortar mix that has too little cement is a PITA. However those pre-mix bags may suit the bricklayer just fine so you can take back the pure bags at the end of the job.
yeah I'd give the mason a call and ask what he likes working with. Some won't frick with the pre-mix, some love it.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 8:22 am to redneck
Honestly he told me to get premix
But he didn't specify which kind.
A Mexican guy that barely speaks English.
But he didn't specify which kind.
A Mexican guy that barely speaks English.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 8:34 am to LSUballs
How many bags should I get?
Link to reccomneded kind?
I have 36 60-lb bags of quikrete
Doing a 66 foot long ledge.
Link to reccomneded kind?
I have 36 60-lb bags of quikrete
Doing a 66 foot long ledge.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 8:43 am to Cow Drogo
or
where do you live?
Posted on 8/2/17 at 8:46 am to Cow Drogo
i did a lot of stone on my patio and all the joints are coming apart. The Mexican who is doing my work now told me because it's type n. I guess it's just too soft and eventually breaks apart in the elements.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 9:15 am to Art Vandelay
Did he say s is better?
Posted on 8/2/17 at 9:58 am to Cow Drogo
My opinion, is do it right. Call Home Depot and see what they say about returns first. But it won't cost you much to do it right and mortar that breaks apart is a pita.
This post was edited on 8/2/17 at 9:59 am
Posted on 8/2/17 at 10:45 am to baldona
Ok I will do that
Thanks
Thanks
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