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re: Mako Boats
Posted on 4/8/21 at 8:22 pm to Skip Winkman
Posted on 4/8/21 at 8:22 pm to Skip Winkman
The LTS bay boats are pretty good boats in the 18 and 21 ft ranges
They also make a 19ft CPX that is pretty good.
Those skiffs I'm not sure about.
They also make a 19ft CPX that is pretty good.
Those skiffs I'm not sure about.
This post was edited on 4/8/21 at 8:33 pm
Posted on 4/8/21 at 8:27 pm to Skip Winkman
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Mako Boats
Paging RingLeader.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 9:29 pm to Skip Winkman
They were the standard when I was growing up in Ocean Springs in 70s and 80s. The 21 and 27 mako with Yamaha 200 or twin 150 was the boat most all the serious fisherman used. You still see people redoing those hulls. I have no real clue on new boats, but before all the boat snobs get on here where everyone is a billionaire and has custom rigs, let me tell you a few actual facts from my buddy who used to own, not work for two of the largest boat manufacturers in America. One brand more ski one more offshore.
Everyone is basically using the same hull forms, some with modifications and always has. I bought my boat because it was using the old sea craft hull form.
Everyone is using same engines. They buy their tanks, towers from same 4 or 5 tank companies, etc
There are basically only a a dozen real differences in design, the rest is in detail and workmanship. Some fiberglass guys are better than others but the top guys often jump around so they may be with Everglades one year and regulator the next. The rest is just personal preferences.
And the kicker, although boat company people are doing to deny this, but boat prices skyrocketed more because you can finance them for 15-20 years than the 10 years it used to be, than increased cost to build etc .
Best move is still good used hull, new or lightly used motor
Everyone is basically using the same hull forms, some with modifications and always has. I bought my boat because it was using the old sea craft hull form.
Everyone is using same engines. They buy their tanks, towers from same 4 or 5 tank companies, etc
There are basically only a a dozen real differences in design, the rest is in detail and workmanship. Some fiberglass guys are better than others but the top guys often jump around so they may be with Everglades one year and regulator the next. The rest is just personal preferences.
And the kicker, although boat company people are doing to deny this, but boat prices skyrocketed more because you can finance them for 15-20 years than the 10 years it used to be, than increased cost to build etc .
Best move is still good used hull, new or lightly used motor
Posted on 4/8/21 at 10:05 pm to BuddyRoeaux
Nothing inaccurate said here. The new ones are hit or miss. A lot of miss... I’d maybe consider a new 334 if the price was absolutely a steal. The 284 is a decent hull, but a fuel pig. The 21 LTS is a great bay boat. I have a friend that does Wounded Warrior charters on one with thousands of hours on the hull. But there’s better builders out there for the same money.
The old ones had a good reputation of being well built hulls that last the test of time, and that’s mostly true. Even those had lots of instances of shoddy glass work on the top cap, inner liner, stringers... as they were cranking them out like hot cakes back in the 70s-80s-early 90s. Then some of the below deck items such as the fuel tank compartments (coffin) were innovative, but poorly executed.
All that said, for their time they were great boats. Engineering and design has come a long way since then. Modern biaxial glass patterns are far superior to old fashioned alternation of mat and roven woven. Composite cores and etc make lighter and stronger panels...Then resin infusion gives ideal resin to glass ratios. 3-piece hulls give more foot room and a stronger hull with less stress cracks. Yada yada. If you can find a good hull from the 80s or 90s and want to put some sweat equity in it, you can have a solid boat for a fraction of the price of a comparable sized boat these days. I fish the hell out of mine. Treat it like a bay boat, run all over the marsh on a trolling motor, take it offshore a few times a year. I’d love a 36ft with trips but I’m not going to mortgage a boat. For what a new boat costs, this is what I can afford.
Pics of my 1993 repowered last summer with 2020 motors.
My first Mako (1985 21ft) with my 26
The old ones had a good reputation of being well built hulls that last the test of time, and that’s mostly true. Even those had lots of instances of shoddy glass work on the top cap, inner liner, stringers... as they were cranking them out like hot cakes back in the 70s-80s-early 90s. Then some of the below deck items such as the fuel tank compartments (coffin) were innovative, but poorly executed.
All that said, for their time they were great boats. Engineering and design has come a long way since then. Modern biaxial glass patterns are far superior to old fashioned alternation of mat and roven woven. Composite cores and etc make lighter and stronger panels...Then resin infusion gives ideal resin to glass ratios. 3-piece hulls give more foot room and a stronger hull with less stress cracks. Yada yada. If you can find a good hull from the 80s or 90s and want to put some sweat equity in it, you can have a solid boat for a fraction of the price of a comparable sized boat these days. I fish the hell out of mine. Treat it like a bay boat, run all over the marsh on a trolling motor, take it offshore a few times a year. I’d love a 36ft with trips but I’m not going to mortgage a boat. For what a new boat costs, this is what I can afford.
Pics of my 1993 repowered last summer with 2020 motors.


My first Mako (1985 21ft) with my 26

Posted on 4/9/21 at 5:08 am to RingLeader
Anything before 95/96 is gonna be good...those are referred to as "Classic Makos"
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I love the lines on the older ones. Of course, if you are buying a boat that old be sure to check for old boat things like soft spots etc.
I've heard issues with some of the center consoles that were built with brackets having a harder time getting on plane with heavier four strokes. However the issue is usually alleviated with tabs.
Those are nice ones Ringleader. Whereabouts was the second picture taken?

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I love the lines on the older ones. Of course, if you are buying a boat that old be sure to check for old boat things like soft spots etc.
I've heard issues with some of the center consoles that were built with brackets having a harder time getting on plane with heavier four strokes. However the issue is usually alleviated with tabs.
Those are nice ones Ringleader. Whereabouts was the second picture taken?
This post was edited on 4/9/21 at 5:10 am
Posted on 4/9/21 at 7:42 am to LAwolf
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I've heard issues with some of the center consoles that were built with brackets having a harder time getting on plane with heavier four strokes. However the issue is usually alleviated with tabs.
The boats that have been loaded up with 600+ lb motors tend to ride pretty light in the bow. The new Merc 4-strokes are very close to what the boats were designed for, so a far better choice. I really wanted to go to 300s, but the extra 150 lbs and the hassle of finding someone to insure the boat being 200hp over rated hp kept me where I was at 225s. And honestly the boat rides better with less weight hanging off that bracket.
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Whereabouts was the second picture taken?
Nathan’s Restaurant on Bayou Bonfouca.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 8:50 am to CharlesLSU
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Old was good. New not so much.
Pricey for cheaply made
This....pre Tracker/Bass Pro Shops was good. Post not.
I'd still love to have an 80's model 26 redone for offshore here.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 9:30 am to IndigoTiger
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Those skiffs I'm not sure about.
The old ones are gems

Posted on 4/9/21 at 9:44 am to Saskwatch
I’d kill for a Backcountry 18. They only made about 50 of them.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 9:48 am to RingLeader
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I’d kill for a Backcountry 18. They only made about 50 of them
Saw a bare hull for sale recently on Facebook.
Hell, I saw one at a gas station in Slidell a few years back. Had not idea what the hell it was with the decking configuration.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 11:24 am to Skip Winkman
Considering most of these people don't own one, I will give you a perspective from an owner. We have a 2007 21'.
[link=(Over priced, under built entry level boats with variable service & warranty after the sale.
You could get a good one or a turd, gel coat, thru hull, stringer, hatch issues have all been reported by owners.)]LINK[/link]
I would never buy one new, but on the used market they are fairly priced. And much better than an entry level boat, they are not some tri-hull or Carolina Skiff.
Now the only negative that has been noticed is hte hatches are not the best. They wore out pretty quickly.
The wiring is much better than previous boats we have owned. Not the dryest riding hull I have ever been on but it isnt a "junk" boat.
[link=(Over priced, under built entry level boats with variable service & warranty after the sale.
You could get a good one or a turd, gel coat, thru hull, stringer, hatch issues have all been reported by owners.)]LINK[/link]
I would never buy one new, but on the used market they are fairly priced. And much better than an entry level boat, they are not some tri-hull or Carolina Skiff.
Now the only negative that has been noticed is hte hatches are not the best. They wore out pretty quickly.
The wiring is much better than previous boats we have owned. Not the dryest riding hull I have ever been on but it isnt a "junk" boat.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:43 pm to Shexter

Saw something very similar to this when I was in Fort Myers visiting my brother this winter. Thing went ripping the length of the beach before coming back in. Impressive to say the least.
Curious what something like this costs all in...

This post was edited on 4/9/21 at 2:45 pm
Posted on 4/9/21 at 3:43 pm to Skip Winkman
As well stated: 1995 and older are "Classic" or "real" Mako's. Anything after that is subject to a cheaper build quality. The old 17' and 17' Angler models were what I wanted so bad as a kid growing up fishing in Delacroix with my Dad in our old 15' Glassmaster trihull.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 4:38 pm to Skip Winkman
Went out to the Mars platform out of Venice on a 28" Mako. We got in some choppy 4+ seas and that boat rattled from bow to stern like no boat I have ever been in. My opinion of Mako was never the same.
A friend of my from Louisiana owned that boat with James Peters who is a guide out of Venice. I think James used it for clients from time to time to run out to the lump but ended up with a much bigger/higher quality boat as his guide business took off.
A friend of my from Louisiana owned that boat with James Peters who is a guide out of Venice. I think James used it for clients from time to time to run out to the lump but ended up with a much bigger/higher quality boat as his guide business took off.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 4:52 pm to RingLeader
What would you consider closest to a backcountry 18 on the market these days?
Asking for a friend.
Asking for a friend.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 5:30 pm to SpillwayRoyalty
Make had not shite the bed in 07, they were still building both Kenner and Mako in 07. Merger into Mako didn’t occur until 2010 if I remember correctly. Boats built after that had issues.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 10:03 pm to Skip Winkman
I had a mid 80’s 23’ with a new 200 Yamaha and it rode like a Cadillac. We would run 40-50 mi out of Cameron on the reg. Damn were we brave or stupid.
This post was edited on 4/9/21 at 10:05 pm
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