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re: Million Dollar Question---What can you get away with getting a dove field ready?
Posted on 8/1/24 at 9:06 am to Nannyslayer
Posted on 8/1/24 at 9:06 am to Nannyslayer
I'll get down voted for this but it works.
We built wooden troughs one year and filled them with wheat, then put them on a sandy spot near a pond.
The day before season we removed them and covered any spillage with dirt.
It worked like a charm, "we didn't get checked" and everyone limited out quick.
We built wooden troughs one year and filled them with wheat, then put them on a sandy spot near a pond.
The day before season we removed them and covered any spillage with dirt.
It worked like a charm, "we didn't get checked" and everyone limited out quick.
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Posted on 8/1/24 at 9:27 am to Nannyslayer
Something to consider with dove hunting is you plant a field and have 2-5 hunters and you are going to shoot a lot. That's one reason its very easy for game wardens to find you. Its not deer hunting where there maybe 1-2 shots a day, we are talking a couple boxes. They like to follow shots, A LOT of shots means something is up.
People love to concentrate on food and there's a reason for that, but having good water and habitat all around can help too depending on your location.
People love to concentrate on food and there's a reason for that, but having good water and habitat all around can help too depending on your location.
Posted on 8/1/24 at 10:30 am to turkish
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Check out the recent “Woodsman’s Perspective” podcast on the working man’s dove field. Buzzword = “erosion control”
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Posted on 8/1/24 at 10:38 am to Nannyslayer
Condition them in off season with bait piles next to sheets of ply wood painted yellow or orange
Remove plywood and bait specified time before season
Whenever you hunt replace plywood
Thank me later
Remove plywood and bait specified time before season
Whenever you hunt replace plywood
Thank me later
Posted on 8/1/24 at 11:39 am to choupiquesushi
You baws shole do work hard for a dove bird.
Posted on 8/1/24 at 12:05 pm to baldona
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Something to consider with dove hunting is you plant a field and have 2-5 hunters and you are going to shoot a lot. That's one reason its very easy for game wardens to find you. Its not deer hunting where there maybe 1-2 shots a day, we are talking a couple boxes. They like to follow shots, A LOT of shots means something is up.
Agree, where there is a lot of shooting there is a lot of birds, good place to start an investigation
Couple years ago , was opening weekend for doves and we had no birds so we pulled out the skeet thrower and started blasting away,, within 10 minutes 3 green jeans pulled up the driveway, they were cool and even shot a few with us ,,,, till they heard another volley of gunshots in the distance and off they went
Posted on 8/1/24 at 12:07 pm to White Bear
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You baws shole do work hard for a dove bird.
agree, guess i have never been on that good of a hunt but it just aint worth it
anybody got a copy of the MS paint picture of the dove hunt with father in law in a wheel chair drinking miller lites in an ant pile?
This post was edited on 8/1/24 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 8/1/24 at 1:18 pm to Ol boy
Link with info can be completely subjective to different wardens:
You can say it is for soil erosion and the green jeans can say it's baiting and you will get fined.
It's horseshite....
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Look for grain or other feed in the area. Is it present solely as the result of an allowed normal agricultural operation? Where crops have been manipulated or harvested, look for the presence of grain that may not be related to the manipulation or harvest.
Look closely for seed and grain on prepared agricultural fields. Is it present solely as the result of a normal agricultural planting or a planting for agricultural soil erosion control? Know what planting, harvesting, and other agricultural practices are recommended for the areas you hunt.
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Baiting is the direct or indirect placing, exposing, depositing, distributing, or scattering of salt, grain, or other feed that could lure or attract migratory game birds to, on, or over any areas where hunters are attempting to take them. A baited area is any area on which salt, grain, or other feed has been placed, exposed, deposited, distributed, or scattered, if that salt, grain, or feed could serve as a lure or attraction for migratory game birds.
You cannot hunt doves or any other migratory game bird by the aid of baiting or on or over any baited area where you know or reasonably should know that the area is or has been baited.
You can say it is for soil erosion and the green jeans can say it's baiting and you will get fined.
It's horseshite....
Posted on 8/1/24 at 2:15 pm to Nannyslayer
hunt in a field thats farmed ? call green jeans and ask him
Posted on 8/1/24 at 2:15 pm to bbvdd
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You can say it is for soil erosion and the green jeans can say it's baiting and you will get fined. It's horseshite
Yeah I agree 100%
He can say whatever he wants and write whatever ticket he wants.
It’s now on the person who wants to defend himself how much he’s willing to spend when he knows he is wrong!!
Posted on 8/1/24 at 10:02 pm to Cracker
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hunt in a field thats farmed ? call green jeans and ask him
I’m an amateur dove hunter at best, but a few of us hunt in my buddies big corn field behind his house. 80 acres, SUPER rural, and his family has lived there for 70+ years, so I can’t imagine green jeans coming up. I just always thought hunting over a farmed field was perfectly legal.
Posted on 8/2/24 at 7:58 am to Dave_O
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I just always thought hunting over a farmed field was perfectly legal.
It is
Posted on 8/2/24 at 8:07 pm to bbvdd
quote:Are you serious?
You can say it is for soil erosion and the green jeans can say it's baiting and you will get fined. It's horseshite....
Posted on 8/2/24 at 9:17 pm to White Bear
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Are you serious?
Yes I am. Did you see the quotes that I have from the Fed regulations?
99% of your post truly suck. All you ever do is try and tell people that they’re stupid, yet you’re normally wrong.
Must suck to be in your family.
Posted on 8/2/24 at 10:12 pm to bbvdd
quote:The baiting rules are written as they are for the exact reason you state. I thought we knew this already.
Yes I am. Did you see the quotes that I have from the Fed regulations?
Posted on 8/3/24 at 2:54 am to Nannyslayer
You really need a few acres of very well disked ground. Doves land on it and freaking disappear. Use a seeder and sow wheat as if you were planting it for normal wheat field. If you have an irrigation well, dig a couple water furrows and fill with the cool water ever other day. Sow wheat seed first week in July. May need a 50lb sack sown each weak due to those pesky birds eating your seed up before it can sprout. About 7 days give or take completely disk under all seed. But continue with the cool clean water. You'll see plenty of birds. Just do not sow corn. Its a spring crop for planting, wheat is a winter grown crop so use wheat seed.
Posted on 8/3/24 at 9:14 am to White Bear
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The baiting rules are written as they are for the exact reason you state. I thought we knew this already.
Let me state again like I’m talking to a 2 yr old.
A game warden can decide 2 different things wit the same evidence in front of him.
Legal:
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Look closely for seed and grain on prepared agricultural fields. Is it present solely as the result of a normal agricultural planting or a planting for agricultural soil erosion control
Non-legal:
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Baiting is the direct or indirect placing, exposing, depositing, distributing, or scattering of salt, grain, or other feed that could lure or attract migratory game birds to, on, or over any areas where hunters are attempting to take them
What’s the difference?
Posted on 8/3/24 at 11:02 am to Nannyslayer
A game warden friend of mine told me several years ago that they will go to retail outlets to see who is buying what when it comes to dove hunting. If you are buying large amounts of bird seed in July and August the odds are good that they will check your field. There are good ways to do things legally. I would never approach setting up a dove field with the what can I get away with midset
Posted on 8/3/24 at 11:21 am to bbvdd
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What’s the difference?
This:
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Is it present solely as the result of a normal agricultural planting or a planting for agricultural soil erosion control
You’re guilty until proven innocent. I think we agree.
Posted on 8/3/24 at 12:59 pm to deltafarmer
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game warden friend of mine told me several years ago that they will go to retail outlets to see who is buying what when it comes to dove hunting
What do they do? Get a warrant and search through thousands of sales receipts? Match up credit card numbers?
Or do they stand around under an umbrella and photograph people loading sacks of corn into their trucks and then run their tags?
Considering that it's perfectly legal to have bait out up until two weeks before you hunt, I'm calling BS on the whole story
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