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Mixing MSMA and Image for application on Bermuda?
Posted on 7/17/13 at 10:44 pm
Posted on 7/17/13 at 10:44 pm
Is this okay?
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Posted on 7/17/13 at 10:48 pm to urinetrouble
Yes it is okay. What type of sprayer are you using?
Posted on 7/18/13 at 7:14 am to Polar Pop
Not sure the exact term, but I wear it like a backpack and pump frequently with a lever mechanism.
Would I increase the water at all? Or just use the same water to satisfy both mixing ratios?
Would I increase the water at all? Or just use the same water to satisfy both mixing ratios?
Posted on 7/18/13 at 7:50 am to urinetrouble
quote:May be a Solo backpack sprayer.
Not sure the exact term, but I wear it like a backpack and pump frequently with a lever mechanism.
quote:I've never mixed the two but I use 1 1/2 oz of MSMA per 3 gallons with a rig like yours.
Would I increase the water at all? Or just use the same water to satisfy both mixing ratios?
With the sprayer of that sort there tends to be more liquid put down on the plant, in effect, more concentrated application.
Are you spot spraying or the entire yard? If so, how big of a yard we talking about? If it's substantial I'd get a 25 gallon spray rig with a boom on a 4-wheeler. For that we put a gallon of MSMA and run about 4 miles per hour depending on wind.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 7:51 am to urinetrouble
It is safe to tank mix these herbicides. You can use the respective ratios, but put 50% water in the tank before adding the first chemical, then repeat for the second.
You want good agitation so shake the hell out of your backpack sprayer. If you have a hand held pump sprayer, it is advised to do a small test area with it first.
I assume you have a shitload of nutsedge?
You want good agitation so shake the hell out of your backpack sprayer. If you have a hand held pump sprayer, it is advised to do a small test area with it first.
I assume you have a shitload of nutsedge?
Posted on 7/18/13 at 7:52 am to Polar Pop
quote:I was thinking he had virginia buttonweed. If it's nutsedge, he needs to use Permit. Nothing beats it.
I assume you have a shitload of nutsedge?
Posted on 7/18/13 at 7:56 am to Geauxtiga
Very possible. I just remember using image for nutsedge. You ever used sedgehammer?
Been a while since I have messed with any herbicides. I left the golf course maintenance industry a few years ago so I am trying to jog my memory on some of this.
Been a while since I have messed with any herbicides. I left the golf course maintenance industry a few years ago so I am trying to jog my memory on some of this.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 8:01 am to Polar Pop
quote:
I assume you have a shitload of nutsedge?
I've got a lot of weeds, but the two main culprits are dallisgrass and nutsedge. The MSMA is for the dallisgrass and the Image is for the nutsedge.
If there is another product y'all would recommend for nutsedge, I would definitely consider it as I haven't bought any Image yet. I already have the MSMA.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 8:04 am to Geauxtiga
quote:
Are you spot spraying or the entire yard? If so, how big of a yard we talking about? I
Entire back yard, approximately 2000 sf.
I figured just doing the whole yard would be easiest. I've done it before and it didn't take long at all.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 8:07 am to urinetrouble
Whered you get that MSMA ?
Image nutsedge killer does ok. I do an application onmy lawn every year.
The best weed control on a bermuda lawn, is a thick healthy bermuda lawn. It will choke out 90 % of that other crap.
Image nutsedge killer does ok. I do an application onmy lawn every year.
The best weed control on a bermuda lawn, is a thick healthy bermuda lawn. It will choke out 90 % of that other crap.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 8:08 am to Polar Pop
quote:Never have.
You ever used sedgehammer?
Posted on 7/18/13 at 8:10 am to urinetrouble
quote:I use Permit but it's expensive and the smallest quantity you can buy lasts for a lifetime.
If there is another product y'all would recommend for nutsedge
I wasn't aware of image working on nutsedge. If it does, and apparently it does, use that. I may start using it also. Much cheaper.
I'm surrprised no one said MSMA was illegal by now.
I have some and you can still get it, contrary to popular belief.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 8:11 am to Geauxtiga
quote:
If it's nutsedge, he needs to use Permit. Nothing beats it.
Will Home Depot or Lowe's carry this?
Posted on 7/18/13 at 8:14 am to thedice20
quote:
Whered you get that MSMA ?
Are you a cop?
My dad ordered shite ton last year when he found it was being restricted. I'll be going to him for it for a good while.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 8:14 am to Geauxtiga
quote:
I wasn't aware of image working on nutsedge
It works but its nothing crazy. Sedge needs to be actively growing, hot as shite outside, and takes a while to work. More than not, requiring multiple applications.
I think it is popular because you can get it on the shelf at Lowes/HD.
Kind of like Round up vs. Round up Pro in the blue jug.
ETA: Dice, show your badge! "You gotta tell me if you a cop, or its entrapment"
This post was edited on 7/18/13 at 8:16 am
Posted on 7/18/13 at 8:15 am to urinetrouble
quote:
Are you a cop?
My dad ordered shite ton last year when he found it was being restricted. I'll be going to him for it for a good while.
no. I wanted to get some this year and couldnt find anyone with a big enough set of nuts to hunt some down for me.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 8:16 am to urinetrouble
quote:LINK
MSMA CONTINUES TO BE ON THE MARKET
The Organic Arsenical Products Task Force (OAPTF) would like to clarify to its users and distributors that under the terms of the 2009 agreement with the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) the sale, distribution, and use of MSMA products labeled for golf course, sod farms, and highway rights of way will continue.
With the regard to cotton – the 2009 agreement with the EPA provides for unconditional reregistration for use of MSMA on cotton.
The OAPTF in cooperation with the EPA has been advised that the December 31, 2013 use date restriction for the continued use of MSMA on Golf courses, Sod farms, and Highway Rights of Way has been rescinded. Persons having in their possession Drexel MSMA 6 Plus or MSMA 6.6, with this December 31, 2013 use date restriction on the label, may continue to sell and use the product in a manner described on the label past the December 31st date as this date has been rescinded by the EPA.
This post was edited on 7/18/13 at 8:18 am
Posted on 7/18/13 at 8:17 am to thedice20
quote:
The best weed control on a bermuda lawn, is a thick healthy bermuda lawn. It will choke out 90 % of that other crap.
Oh I know. It's just this dallisgrass is the bane of my existence. Pretty sure it could survive a nuclear attack.
Interestingly enough, the nutsedge is the only weed growing in the spots where my turf is thick and healthy.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 8:23 am to urinetrouble
quote:
nterestingly enough, the nutsedge is the only weed growing in the spots where my turf is thick and healthy.
Yea.... ive noticed that as well.
Tifway 419?
Posted on 7/18/13 at 8:26 am to thedice20
I believe you could place a 6" thick concrete slab over nutsedge and that shite will bust right through. Bad thing is that many home owners keep spraying it with round up, only to have nothing happen.
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