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PSA: Don't buy guns at Academy
Posted on 8/26/20 at 12:17 pm
Posted on 8/26/20 at 12:17 pm
I see this popping up often, so I'll just put a bulletin out. If you get a delay on your background, 99% of gun shops will release the gun to you after the 3 business day hold that NICS requires. So if you try to buy a gun on Monday and get delayed, you can go back and get it on Friday
Academy does not do this. They will only release the gun when they get an express follow-up approval from NICS, which doesn't happen often. Most of the time, the 30-day validity period of the 4473 will expire and you will have to do another one, which will get delayed again.
If you have a non-lifetime CHP, you just fill out a 4473 and there is no NICS check, so buying at Academy is not an issue. Otherwise, go elsewhere. I've seen a few people on here state that they've been instant approvals up until recently, so it's not worth the risk.
Academy does not do this. They will only release the gun when they get an express follow-up approval from NICS, which doesn't happen often. Most of the time, the 30-day validity period of the 4473 will expire and you will have to do another one, which will get delayed again.
If you have a non-lifetime CHP, you just fill out a 4473 and there is no NICS check, so buying at Academy is not an issue. Otherwise, go elsewhere. I've seen a few people on here state that they've been instant approvals up until recently, so it's not worth the risk.
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Posted on 8/26/20 at 12:26 pm to Carson123987
I still buy from academy on occasion, but I’ve never been delayed anywhere. Hopefully I didn’t just jinx myself as I’m about to go pick up an FFL transfer at my dealer later today.
Posted on 8/26/20 at 12:30 pm to Carson123987
Thread highjack,
You have any hellcats over where you at?
If so I’m on my way?
You have any hellcats over where you at?
If so I’m on my way?
Posted on 8/26/20 at 12:47 pm to Carson123987
quote:Upvoted.
I see this popping up often, so I'll just put a bulletin out. If you get a delay on your background, 99% of gun shops will release the gun to you after the 3 business day hold that NICS requires. So if you try to buy a gun on Monday and get delayed, you can go back and get it on Friday
Academy does not do this. They will only release the gun when they get an express follow-up approval from NICS, which doesn't happen often. Most of the time, the 30-day validity period of the 4473 will expire and you will have to do another one, which will get delayed again.
I'm not in the buying market for new guns anymore, I'm more of a used/surplus guy. Best market for these are usually online, which requires a FFL transfer (with fee). I've been delayed probably over a third of the time. Absolutely sucks to hear Academy would hold my purchase beyond the 3 day period. Since you're working in the field, are you hearing why they do that? Being a chain, maybe? Liability?
My best transfer experience is my range, I've got a family membership. I'm on friendly terms with their smith, and he looks over the guns as they come in. And if/when I get delayed, they let me shoot the guns, I just need to leave it there until it's been released. And price for member is $20 for a transfer. So even if I could find a cheaper, being able to shoot it and have a set of experienced eyes check it out is worth the price.
Posted on 8/26/20 at 12:48 pm to Carson123987
Yall have any small 380s in stock and ammo? A LCP maybe? I need to get the wife a gun bad especially now that the dog is gone.
Posted on 8/26/20 at 12:52 pm to Carson123987
quote:
f you have a non-lifetime CHP, you just fill out a 4473 and there is no NICS check
A big reason to have it. Love that part of it. I have moved since I got my CHP so the address on it isn't the same as my current address ( I updated with the state but they don't issue a new card). I had one dealer who called in the check because he said my addresses didn't match. That has only happened to me once.
Posted on 8/26/20 at 1:32 pm to GREENHEAD22
quote:
Thread highjack,
You have any hellcats over where you at?
quote:
Yall have any small 380s in stock and ammo? A LCP maybe?
sorry baws, I'm not at Bowie's anymore. I think they're out of the vast majority of handguns over there. Worth calling to see, 766-1200.
Posted on 8/26/20 at 1:40 pm to lsufan1971
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I have moved since I got my CHP so the address on it isn't the same as my current address ( I updated with the state but they don't issue a new card). I had one dealer who called in the check because he said my addresses didn't match. That has only happened to me once.
I have moved a couple times since I got mine. The first time a couple years back I was told I would not receive a new card. But when I moved again a few months ago I submitted my change via email and got a reply saying the change was made. Then a few days later I got a new card in the mail.
Whenever I purchased a gun after my first address change I just showed the retailer my confirmation email from LSP showing the change. I never had anyone need to call to confirm.
Posted on 8/26/20 at 2:04 pm to Carson123987
If you got delayed at Academy, could you still go to a local shop later that day and try to buy from there? Or will a NICS check from Academy that gets delayed prevent another shop from running a NICS check until the Academy one is resolved?
Had probably 6-7 NICS checks run in my life (one from Academy) and never had any delays, so just curious
Had probably 6-7 NICS checks run in my life (one from Academy) and never had any delays, so just curious
Posted on 8/26/20 at 2:16 pm to Tiger Prawn
you could try, but you would likely be delayed again
usually if you always get a Proceed, you're good. but i've seen people saying they started getting delayed out of the blue this year.
usually if you always get a Proceed, you're good. but i've seen people saying they started getting delayed out of the blue this year.
Posted on 8/26/20 at 2:31 pm to Carson123987
quote:But if you got delayed again, you'd likely be able to go back and pick it up from the gun shop after the 3 day period right?
you could try, but you would likely be delayed again
quote:Possible that the system is just backlogged because covid and all the rioting has prompted more people to buy guns than usual?
but i've seen people saying they started getting delayed out of the blue this year.
This post was edited on 8/26/20 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 8/26/20 at 2:34 pm to Tiger Prawn
quote:
But if you got delayed again, you'd likely be able to go back and pick it up from the gun shop after the 3 day period right?
Correct. Wouldn’t be stuck in the cycle like you would at Academy
Posted on 8/26/20 at 2:58 pm to Carson123987
quote:What happens if/when Academy then clears you... are you stuck buying that gun too?quote:
But if you got delayed again, you'd likely be able to go back and pick it up from the gun shop after the 3 day period right?
Correct. Wouldn’t be stuck in the cycle like you would at Academy
I ask this, having never NOT already purchased a gun I'm waiting for. Ordering online, I've already paid. Can't remember in-store, if I paid prior to the background check or not.
BTW, don't they automatically flag you if you do more than 1 4473 in a week?
Posted on 8/26/20 at 3:10 pm to Scoob
quote:
What happens if/when Academy then clears you... are you stuck buying that gun too?
no. just dont go back for it
when they call you to tell you, just say you dont want it anymore quote:
I ask this, having never NOT already purchased a gun I'm waiting for. Ordering online, I've already paid. Can't remember in-store, if I paid prior to the background check or not.
ive never known a place to do this. usually you dont pay anything until the Proceed card is filled out and the gun is at the registered. they wouldnt want someone to pay, get denied, then have to refund the money
quote:
BTW, don't they automatically flag you if you do more than 1 4473 in a week?
nope
Posted on 8/26/20 at 6:40 pm to Carson123987
I bought my first pistol over 39 years ago. Couldn’t tell you how many I’ve bought and sold over the years. Bought a CZ 75 at a new local gun shop - couple of weeks ago, got delayed for the first time. The gun store guy called the next day, and said he got the approval, so I could pick up my pistol.
Posted on 8/26/20 at 9:42 pm to Carson123987
I was done in about 25mins at Academy today. Mostly old baw taking his time.
Posted on 8/26/20 at 10:07 pm to Carson123987
Yeah, I bought 1 gun at Academy years ago. I'm sure it varies, but their firearms staff at our store is underwhelming and seem unenthusiastic about their work. In other words, the opposite of your typical local gun shop.
Posted on 8/26/20 at 10:16 pm to lsufan1971
quote:
A big reason to have it. Love that part of it.
It might actually be my favorite part of it. Way cooler than not going to jail if the wind blows my shirt over my pistol.
Posted on 8/27/20 at 9:07 am to Carson123987
Must be different at different locations. I bought a rifle that I got same day. Also a sidearm.
Last one was my 30/30 but that was about 2 years ago.
Last one was my 30/30 but that was about 2 years ago.
Posted on 8/27/20 at 9:14 am to Scoob
quote:
My best transfer experience is my range, I've got a family membership. I'm on friendly terms with their smith, and he looks over the guns as they come in. And if/when I get delayed, they let me shoot the guns, I just need to leave it there until it's been released. And price for member is $20 for a transfer. So even if I could find a cheaper, being able to shoot it and have a set of experienced eyes check it out is worth the price.
On top of that youre supporting a local business. I try to do that as often as possible even if I am out of town and will never be back. Its damned difficult to make a go or almost any local business and without those businesses all you got is fricking walmart...
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