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Rio Self-Guided Turkey Hunt - Recommendations?

Posted on 12/3/24 at 3:29 pm
Posted by GeauxTime9
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Dec 2010
6932 posts
Posted on 12/3/24 at 3:29 pm
Looking to get my dad on a Rio this year. Looking for recommendations on a self-guided trip in Texas. Don't need anything special, just an opportunity at a place that has birds. What y'all got?
Posted by MorningWood
On the coast of North Mexico
Member since May 2009
2787 posts
Posted on 12/3/24 at 7:25 pm to
frick if I know. I been trying to win a draw for years.

Let me know what you find
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
18158 posts
Posted on 12/3/24 at 7:53 pm to
Deer, elk, and duck hunters on the internet: here’s where I’m hunting and what I killed, this is how I was able to be successful

Turkey hunters on the internet: birds are way

Posted by jgthunt
Walker
Member since Feb 2010
2651 posts
Posted on 12/3/24 at 8:10 pm to
Check out Texas Hunting Forum
Posted by Jaspermac
Texas
Member since Aug 2018
495 posts
Posted on 12/3/24 at 8:24 pm to
Turkey hunting in Texas is getting pricey. May want to look at Nebraska or Kansas. If you are really stuck on Texas, start calling right now because they fill up. Expect $750-$1000 for 1 bird. Find someone with a lease with birds and offer $500 for 2 birds for corn money. This has worked for me.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
13524 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 7:47 am to
quote:

Looking to get my dad on a Rio this year. Looking for recommendations on a self-guided trip in Texas. Don't need anything special, just an opportunity at a place that has birds. What y'all got?


Not disparaging Texas but I would suggest keep driving until you reach New Mexico. Portions of the Pecos River Valley holds Rios and there is a HEAPING pile of area open to the public. The area around Bottomless Lake State Park was, 6 years ago, pretty lousy with the damned things. I am not sure what the regs are now but at that time it was an over the counter tag and a VAST area that could be hunted and not a lot of people doing so....its pretty damned isolated (about 20 miles east of Roswell). There is some pretty rugged terrain but there are miles and miles of oil field roads that will get you close to the river. 20 Miles west of Roswell is arguably the best and easiest DIY Merriams hunting in the US, Rios are not as numerous but some of the Pecos Valley is crawling with them.....I duck hunted the Bottomless Lake area quite a bit and hunting geese and cranes a LOT in the surrounding area and Rios were always present. Did not always see them alive but never failed to find one that had made a nice dinner for a coyote.

There is also a sizeable population in Tucumcari or just north of it in the Canadian River Valley. I don't know a lot about that area but I have been told its about the same as the area around the mid Pecos Valley. May be more private land in that area but I do not know.

There are also Rios in the Rio Grande Valley south of Albuquerque but most of the Valley south of ABQ is private or a NWR....areas open to the public, at least for duck hunting, get crowded. I suspect it is the same for Turkeys but do not know.


There is a MASSIVE population of Rios in a very small area (small for New Mexico, a couple of hundred square miles) between Carlsbad and the Texas State line in the Black River Valley. I also hunted ducks, dove and quail in this area and scouted for Barbary sheep for people with tags a LOT and this area is CRAWLING with RIOs. At the time it was closed to hunting however. I suspect it still is BUT there was talk of opening it up 6 years ago....if it has opened in the last few years and its possible to get a tag for the area it might be very good. I do not know if it is opened up or if it ever will be but I know for a certainty it is crawling, literally having to stop the truck for the frickers to get out of the road, with Rios. I have seen very few Rios in the Pecos Valley in this area also, especially toward the north end of Red Bluff Lake, but they were very rare....the state says they don't exist at all but they do. This area is WIDE open to hunting anything you have a tag or license for so I would assume if you ran across one in the area with a tag and in season it'd be fair game but I would make sure first LOL.

New Mexico is unique in that private land that is not posted in a visible manner is open to hunting. It is, at times and in some areas, hard to ensure you aren't on private land BUT most land owners who care in an area that would be worthwile make it well known that the land is private. There are massive areas of public land that are inaccessible due to private land and the land owners tend to be deadly serious about keeping people off that land BUT there is PLENTY of open area to hunt. In my experience onX works pretty good in New Mexico....but all of my hunting was limited to ducks, geese, cranes, pheasant, quail and doves so even when I did mess around and trespass no one really cared. I suspect it'd be different for Turkeys.

Finally....the same areas that hold Rios also have more Pheasants than anywhere I have ever been...damned things are like chickens in a commercial chicken house. The season is, or was, only open about a week (they are all released birds). The cover is IMPENETRABLE for the most part and the mud is the wickedest shite anywhere in these areas (seriously, I know about gumbo and coastal mud....manageable New Mexico mud makes the worst of it look like pavement). I don't know if the seasons are open at the same time or not but if they are it'd be a good opportunity to thin the herd....they are, in some areas, shoulder to shoulder....it is IDEAL habitat for them and even with some serious pressure when the season is open there are massive areas that nothing but a pheasant can penetrate. Most of them are killed by running the roads and catching one in the open. They are thick as cordwood. There is also some amazing duck hunting in the area that goes completely untapped except for a very few people.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
13524 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 8:03 am to
So it looks like the area around Carlsbad is still closed year-round and the mid-pecos valley is closed to OTC licenses in the fall. The area around Tucumcari looks like it may be open to OTC licenses in the spring and fall. The marginal area of the lower Pecos Valley is closed to fall OTC licenses also, or so it appears. Also looks like the area south of ABQ is closed to fall OTC licenses but some of it may be open to spring OTC licenses. Fall is far easier for Merriams LOL.....can't speak to Rios.
Posted by DuckSausage
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2014
456 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 9:34 am to
I referred someone on here a few years ago and I believe theyve been back every year.

4K Ranch in Brady, TX. Self Guided, Guides will drop you off in the morning and pick up after. A good buddy manages the ranch and I've helped guide in the past, really cool place with alot of birds and around 10k acres to hunt. You can look them up on instagram @ 4kranchhunting. Call/Text Cody at 325-215-3630, tell him DuckSausage sent you.

This post was edited on 12/4/24 at 9:36 am
Posted by Captain Rumbeard
Member since Jan 2014
6475 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 12:00 pm to
Dunno about a place, but anywhere around Junction Texas is going to have tons of turkeys. I saw a flock there that was over a hundred birds one time. Looked like that scene from Jurassic Park.
Posted by PocketLab
Thib
Member since Sep 2018
218 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 12:14 pm to
There's some ranches in the Sonora/Ozona area. Likely pretty pricey but lots of birds. Crazy to think about when you look at that country.
Posted by LeeeroyJenkins
Member since Aug 2024
852 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 12:49 pm to
quote:

20 Miles west of Roswell is arguably the best and easiest DIY Merriams hunting in the US


What area(s) would you suggest to research/hunt for Merriam’s?
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
9786 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 1:02 pm to
had a deer lease several miles out of junction for 10 years that had really large flocks of turkeys. When you have a hundred pair of turkey eyes in front, they are tough to get close to. My son was able to get a couple with bow/arrow and the remain motionless part required him to hold the drawn bow for 8-9 minutes while they walked close

I used a 223 browning a-bolt with big Leopol scope to collect them at 80-120 yards. Head shots.
Posted by Ron Cheramie
The Cajun Hedgehog
Member since Aug 2016
5551 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 1:06 pm to
quote:

hold the drawn bow for 8-9 minutes


That’s the most impressive thing I’ve heard today
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
13524 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 2:10 pm to
quote:

What area(s) would you suggest to research/hunt for Merriam’s?



From Carizzozo to Hondo and south to Timberon. If memory serves that would be most of GMUs 34,35,36 and 37. This includes Ruidoso and Cloudcroft. The area between Mayhill and Weed is loaded and is almost all public land and doesn't get as much pressure as the Carizzozo and closer you get to ABQ and Ruidoso. This area is also not far from Alamogordo. I have been told that the southern end of this area, Timberon, is really good but I do not know this first hand. It is VERY isolated and there is a lot of private land in the area but more to the point what people are there are there, in large part, because they aren't very social...its a strange area. Even for New Mexico. From Ruidoso to Weed it would take a couple of lifetimes to hunt all of the public land available and most of it is very good turkey habitat.

This can be pretty rugged country. There is a lot of tribal land in the area but it is also most accessible, some of it requires tribal licenses etc. but for the most part it is open to public access. There are mainly good roads and plenty of places to camp, not a lot of services outside of the main towns like Ruidoso.....its a pretty isolated area. Not as isolated as New Mexico gets but pretty isolated. There is a change of elevation of about 3500 feet or so from the east or west over about 35 miles. Weather is fickled at best but it will almost certainly be cold to miserably cold at night no matter what time of the year. Its a gorgeous area, especially for those of us from the south.

I am almost certain that fall and spring OTC tags are available in these GMUs....they were 6-10 years ago and I can't imagine why it would change. Spring season is usually about a month and the fall season is usually almost all of September and November.

This area is also one of the few where people lucky enough to get elk tags and mule deer tags in New Mexico usually have some success hunting on their own. Its crawling with Elk and if it were in the south you could shoot a deer of a lifetime a couple of times a week for a LONG time. Being in the western US it requires a law degree to figure out how to apply for tags.
Posted by LeeeroyJenkins
Member since Aug 2024
852 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 5:34 pm to
Thank you for taking the time to provide all the great info. Will do some research and reach out with any questions. Appreciate it!
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