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re: So it begins: Federal 6.5 CM +Peak
Posted on 6/5/26 at 9:47 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Posted on 6/5/26 at 9:47 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
There’s nothing broken to fix for almost any rifle cartridge inside 200 yards to be able to kill a whitetail, but a ton of those guys would shoot a lighter recoiling rifle better than the 300wm they’re toting now. If this gets a percentage of them shooting a gun they can hit lung with consistently instead of jumping out of their skin when they yank the trigger, that’s a good thing.
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Posted on 6/5/26 at 9:49 pm to bbvdd
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If you want a nicer rifle just buy another .308. I have both the .308 and 6.5cm. Several of each actually. I will say the 6.5 is easier to me to shoot
Exactly why I am considering that round. Easier shooting, less recoil, more likely to be able to follow through with the shot without giving up too much in power. Any objections to that?
Posted on 6/5/26 at 10:41 pm to buffbraz
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Any objections to that?
None. I love the cartridge. I reload and I have one rifle (competition) that I’ve been able to get 2900 fps with 140 gr with only flat primers (using Lapua brass with small primer pocket) it’s right there with the PRC.
One of my others I haven’t pushed too hard. It’s my hunting rifle and don’t need it too fast.
Posted on 6/5/26 at 11:27 pm to ConnectTheDots
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Hopefully this isn’t a deathblow for the 6.5prc as I just got one 2 months ago
Shouldn't be, if the same technology could be applied to 6.5 PRC (or 7mm or 300 PRC). 50 BMG? Don't buy the claim of not increasing recoil, this isn't getting around Newton's Laws no matter what the marketing dept says. Trade off would be barrel life too, higher pressures greatly increase the engraving forces applied to the bullet by the rifling. Imagine bullets have to be made a bit tougher as increased FPS also means higher spin. Guess Proof's new rifling technology is timely.
Posted on 6/6/26 at 4:39 am to Clames
But does anybody want a 6.5 going 3400fps and will eat a barrel up even faster? That’s basically a 26 Nosler. I’m thinking about the guy who’s in the market for a new gun. If I can buy a 6.5cm that shoots regular bullets and is capable of 3100fps if I needed it, that’s what I’m buying. My whole reason for going with the prc is it beat the creedmoor in every way and still had manageable recoil.
This post was edited on 6/6/26 at 5:17 am
Posted on 6/6/26 at 5:52 am to Junky
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So it’s strictly bolt guns I’d assume and not for ARs?
Just reading about this for the first time but I think ARs would be able to take advantage of it as well?
Posted on 6/6/26 at 6:02 am to SCwTiger
I like all the new fandango cartridges but yeah, if the ole aught six can’t kill it then I shouldn’t be hunting them.
Posted on 6/6/26 at 6:25 am to ConnectTheDots
Eating the barrel up faster only matters if you’re doing a tremendous amount of target shooting. I’ve owned my Weatherbys for around twenty years and the barrels are fine.
Posted on 6/6/26 at 6:31 am to Koolazzkat
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the ole aught six
Will probably do really well with the new case. Pawpaws old ought six might make .300 win mag speeds from a 20" barrel now.
Posted on 6/6/26 at 7:06 am to TheDrunkenTigah
I'm curious about the powder charge. It would have to be more than 6.5CM. But is it less than 6.5PRC, and if so, how much less? If the charge is closer to the former then recoil would in fact be similar. Pressure is a weird thing. Sometimes just a little tweak to components can create a lot of it.
Posted on 6/6/26 at 7:09 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Y'all shoot what you think is best
I'll just stick to my .243 Browning from the 80s at 200-300 yards for deer while y'all bicker the 6.5 to death , especially + peak whatever the frick that is
I'm not even 40 and I'm sounding like a fudd
I'll just stick to my .243 Browning from the 80s at 200-300 yards for deer while y'all bicker the 6.5 to death , especially + peak whatever the frick that is
I'm not even 40 and I'm sounding like a fudd
Posted on 6/6/26 at 7:16 am to Bama and Beer
You're no fudd! I shoot a .30-06 out of a Mauser action.
This post was edited on 6/6/26 at 7:18 am
Posted on 6/6/26 at 7:31 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Probably reach 30-378 Weatherby velocity.
Posted on 6/6/26 at 8:43 am to ConnectTheDots
Everybody wants flatter shooting now it seems, if Federal came out with a cartridge that turned a 6.5 into a particle rifle then you'd know it would sell.
Posted on 6/6/26 at 9:15 am to Clames
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Don't buy the claim of not increasing recoil, this isn't getting around Newton's Laws no matter what the marketing dept says.
This is the interesting part to me. Mostly this claim is attached to an asterisk saying you can use a suppressor and get the same velocity without adding length, but higher pressure gives more room to play with faster burning powders that are potentially much more efficient. Bullet mass and velocity are always going to be the biggest contributors to recoil, but an efficient cartridge can have 10-15% less recoil than an inefficient one by getting there with less powder mass.
Posted on 6/6/26 at 9:26 am to Clames
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Everybody wants flatter shooting now it seems,
That’s not a new thing.
Personally, I want to be able to maintain good ballistics while also having a barrel that’s ~6” shorter. My tinnitus has made me swear off ever shooting without hearing protection or a suppressor ever again if I can help it. I much prefer the suppressor because I can still hear really well, and prefer natural sound while hunting.
This technology is going to help me maintain ballistics in a shorter package, so I’m not carrying around a 30-06, .270, etc that has an effective “barrel” length of ~28” with a suppressor.
Posted on 6/6/26 at 10:07 am to Theduckhunter
Not knowing much about ballistics and or the specifics about cal. Vs rounds. Never had any problems killing deer for 30 years with my 30.06….. seems like alot BS if
Your not shooting more than 250 yards.
Your not shooting more than 250 yards.
Posted on 6/6/26 at 10:24 am to Potchafa
I don’t get why people feel the need to come declare this everytime something new comes out. A 30-30 with a round nose bullet will kill a 130 lb southern whitetail dead. No one is coming to take your 06 or saying it’s anemic, these new things are giving people who enjoy tinkering with this stuff as a hobby a new thing to fool with.
Posted on 6/6/26 at 11:01 am to Potchafa
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seems like alot BS if Your not shooting more than 250 yards
You’re absolutely right. It’s completely unnecessary for most hunters around here.
But for me, I often hunt a powerline and 350+ yards is not uncommon.
ETA: I love a 30-06, but cutting one down to 18” changes things. Is it enough to make a huge difference in the grand scheme of things? No, but I want to minimize my margin for error at 300+ yard shots.
This post was edited on 6/6/26 at 11:05 am
Posted on 6/6/26 at 1:31 pm to Ol boy
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At the end of the day a 125-150gr modern design bullet moving 3000fps is all anyone needs
True, as long as you're not hunting some of the. 100-150# whitetail deer wearing body armor.
Our guns are already plenty powerful and flat shooting for big game hunting. Nevertheless, hunters (myself included) are always open to the idea of a new cartridge that'll require a new gun.
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