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So, you thinking of buying a sawmill
Posted on 2/9/20 at 9:59 am
Posted on 2/9/20 at 9:59 am
If anyone is thinking this, I am going to post what it takes to run a small manual mill. My mill is a woodland 126, that can saw up to 24", but I broke down logs up to 30" in the pass.
First off, think were you would get logs. I take them off my place, but also had put ads on Craiglist to get pine logs for free. I had to build a trailer with a wench to get those.
Second, one will need something to move logs. I use my old tractor with a hay fork. I had lift logs over 3500lbs which is about the max my tractor can lift.
Ok, picking out a log and knowing what to get out of it. Of course, always start out with a cut list for what you need or want.
This is a water oak, fresh felled. 16 1/2" at the butt end and 14 1/2" at the other in. It's 24' long. My cut list called for some 1x6's and a couple 2by's. I need all that at 12' long, so the log was sawed in half. This log was a bit egg shape.
Using the tractor to load the mill.
A very important tool. A cant tool that rolls logs. You will need at least one. If you fell trees just for firewood, buy one of these.
Log on the mill.
At this point, knowing what I want out the log, I rotate it for my first cut. Then, I eyeball it level due to the tapper of the log on the small end using a jack and shim it up.
My first cut. Being egg shape, I have the log set up to take a cut leaving a clear 6" flat top.
Now something about stress in a fresh felled log. There is a lot.
Second cut is to take a 2by out. Most of that is sap wood. Look at the stress.
Next is to rotate the log 180. Then take a cut to leave a 6" flat cut. Then a second cut like the other side.
Now time to rotate it on the live edge. I did plan out that my cant is 6 1/2" wide which it is now.
Then I level the cant end to end and then make a cut. Then I set up for a 1" cut.
Looking at the cant and feeling how the saw is cutting, it was time to change the blade. I knew is needed to be done before I started, but this log had a lot of mud on it. Dirt is a killer on blades.
Ripples are a sure sign of the mill blade speed slowing down.
Blade change.
Kasco blade that is 12' long 7 degree.
After that, I took a couple more 1 bys off. Of course the cant stress has came into play. Rotated 180, removed the live edge and cut some 1 bys.
Stress had moved the cant to were there was a 1/4" dip. Had to take that out. This saw will cut 1/8".
Center of the cant cut.
The cant moved that much.
Now very important thing. The cant pith. You never want to saw that center. Always try to block that in.
From this point, I sawed a couple 1 bys and then flipped the cant and took more 1 bys.
All sawed up. Just have to stack in stickered which I didn't get any pictures of and will get some later.
First off, think were you would get logs. I take them off my place, but also had put ads on Craiglist to get pine logs for free. I had to build a trailer with a wench to get those.
Second, one will need something to move logs. I use my old tractor with a hay fork. I had lift logs over 3500lbs which is about the max my tractor can lift.
Ok, picking out a log and knowing what to get out of it. Of course, always start out with a cut list for what you need or want.
This is a water oak, fresh felled. 16 1/2" at the butt end and 14 1/2" at the other in. It's 24' long. My cut list called for some 1x6's and a couple 2by's. I need all that at 12' long, so the log was sawed in half. This log was a bit egg shape.
Using the tractor to load the mill.

A very important tool. A cant tool that rolls logs. You will need at least one. If you fell trees just for firewood, buy one of these.

Log on the mill.

At this point, knowing what I want out the log, I rotate it for my first cut. Then, I eyeball it level due to the tapper of the log on the small end using a jack and shim it up.

My first cut. Being egg shape, I have the log set up to take a cut leaving a clear 6" flat top.

Now something about stress in a fresh felled log. There is a lot.
Second cut is to take a 2by out. Most of that is sap wood. Look at the stress.

Next is to rotate the log 180. Then take a cut to leave a 6" flat cut. Then a second cut like the other side.

Now time to rotate it on the live edge. I did plan out that my cant is 6 1/2" wide which it is now.

Then I level the cant end to end and then make a cut. Then I set up for a 1" cut.


Looking at the cant and feeling how the saw is cutting, it was time to change the blade. I knew is needed to be done before I started, but this log had a lot of mud on it. Dirt is a killer on blades.

Ripples are a sure sign of the mill blade speed slowing down.
Blade change.

Kasco blade that is 12' long 7 degree.
After that, I took a couple more 1 bys off. Of course the cant stress has came into play. Rotated 180, removed the live edge and cut some 1 bys.
Stress had moved the cant to were there was a 1/4" dip. Had to take that out. This saw will cut 1/8".

Center of the cant cut.

The cant moved that much.

Now very important thing. The cant pith. You never want to saw that center. Always try to block that in.

From this point, I sawed a couple 1 bys and then flipped the cant and took more 1 bys.

All sawed up. Just have to stack in stickered which I didn't get any pictures of and will get some later.
Posted on 2/9/20 at 10:04 am to fishfighter
Very nice. This kind of stuff is why I love the OB.
Posted on 2/9/20 at 10:11 am to ChandlerB03
Thanks.
This mill cost around 3K, Done sawed up enough wood to build a 2 bedroom house. I have less then 15K including the cost of the mill in my guest house.
A link to were I posted about that build.
LINK

This mill cost around 3K, Done sawed up enough wood to build a 2 bedroom house. I have less then 15K including the cost of the mill in my guest house.
A link to were I posted about that build.
LINK
Posted on 2/9/20 at 10:19 am to fishfighter
Are you mobile? I have about 40 mature pine trees I'll split with you.
Posted on 2/9/20 at 10:28 am to VernonPLSUfan
Posted on 2/9/20 at 10:41 am to wickowick
Hey Wick. You getting any water in your camp?
Posted on 2/9/20 at 10:59 am to fishfighter
I only know what a peavey is due to the song, Breakfast in Hell.
Posted on 2/9/20 at 11:10 am to fishfighter
Very impressive fishfighter. Thank you for taking the time to post those pictures. 

Posted on 2/9/20 at 11:17 am to fishfighter
Awesome post, man. I love learning this sort of thing.
Posted on 2/9/20 at 11:21 am to fishfighter
That is really cool, and glad you shared and got the dog in a picture. I love that kind of stuff. 

Posted on 2/9/20 at 11:56 am to fishfighter
Very cool.
Do you plane it yourself and rip it to consistent width? I had a tree cut one time and did not have it planed or ripped to width and built a shed with it. It was a pain. How should I get that done if I have some trees cut and sawed?
Also how long does it take for that water oak to dry? When dry is the wood as dense as red or white oak?
Do you plane it yourself and rip it to consistent width? I had a tree cut one time and did not have it planed or ripped to width and built a shed with it. It was a pain. How should I get that done if I have some trees cut and sawed?
Also how long does it take for that water oak to dry? When dry is the wood as dense as red or white oak?
Posted on 2/9/20 at 11:57 am to fishfighter
'Merica 

This post was edited on 2/9/20 at 11:27 pm
Posted on 2/9/20 at 11:58 am to fishfighter
We gutted the camp last year expecting them to open the locks. I almost have it put back the way it was prior to the gut. I will get you a couple of pics next time I go over of how I used some of those slabs
Posted on 2/9/20 at 12:07 pm to fishfighter
very cool, always wanted to do this. Have a lot of trees on my land I could thin out
Posted on 2/9/20 at 12:20 pm to I B Freeman
quote:
Do you plane it yourself and rip it to consistent width?
Yes. The 1x6's are really 6 1/2" wide. Once moisture gets down to around 16%, I edge one edge on a jointer and then pass it on a tablesaw and then a planner.
quote:
How should I get that done if I have some trees cut and sawed?
Same way above.
quote:
Also how long does it take for that water oak to dry?
Air drying, takes up to 6 months to get it down below 18%. A lot faster if sawed in spring, it will be down below 12%.
[quote]When dry is the wood as dense as red or white oak?
Yes, a hard wood. Difference is water oak has more of a brown tint to it.

Inside my guest house. Wainscoting and door I built. I have it all thru that house. Even the kitchen and bathroom.

Posted on 2/9/20 at 12:22 pm to wickowick
Hey, if you need more, let me know. 

Posted on 2/9/20 at 12:30 pm to HiiO
Only reason I bought the mill was that I am retired. I have a bad heart, but by building my guest house, that has help me big time.
If you have a big need of lumber, have equipment, go for it.
Now that link I posted to people that saw can help you. Most of them will have you help when they saw which saves money.

If you have a big need of lumber, have equipment, go for it.

Now that link I posted to people that saw can help you. Most of them will have you help when they saw which saves money.

Posted on 2/9/20 at 4:12 pm to fishfighter
Looks great!! Thanks for the info.
Posted on 2/9/20 at 5:14 pm to fishfighter
My wife and I purchased some land, 54 acres mixed pine and hard wood we select cut it. A friend of mine has a saw mill and I have milled up a few trees for
Some small sheds around the house. If I could go back I would have bought a mill and a tractor and took my time cutting whatever trees I needed and built a house, you live and learn.
Some small sheds around the house. If I could go back I would have bought a mill and a tractor and took my time cutting whatever trees I needed and built a house, you live and learn.
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