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Speckled trout limits would be reduced for Louisiana anglers under new state plan
Posted on 8/3/23 at 3:26 pm
Posted on 8/3/23 at 3:26 pm
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quote:
Louisiana's catch limits on speckled trout would be significantly reduced under a plan approved Thursday as the state seeks to address steeply declining numbers for its most popular recreational fish.
After four years of discussion on the controversial topic, the state's Wildlife and Fisheries Commission approved a plan that would:
Increase the minimum size from 12 inches to 13 inches.
Establish a maximum size of 20 inches, with two fish above that limit allowed.
Reduce the total catch per angler per day from 25 fish to 15.
Sunset the new rules by 2028 to allow for a reassessment
The plan must now undergo a public comment period and state legislators can reject it. If it moves forward, it could take effect as early as November.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 3:28 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
WHAT
ABOUT
THE
frickING
POGEY
BOATS
????????????
ABOUT
THE
frickING
POGEY
BOATS
????????????
Posted on 8/3/23 at 3:35 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
I like that. I have never felt great about keeping 12" trout.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 3:54 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:
WHAT
ABOUT
THE
frickING
POGEY
BOATS
????????????
well the unstated part of this is now the pogey boats can now double the limits of game fish they currently kill indiscriminately.
it helps when the guys setting the new rules take money from, and work directly for, the pogey boat lobbyists
Posted on 8/3/23 at 3:59 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
Don't mind these regulations but like other have unless if you don't do something about the pogey boats this basically amounts to putting a bandaid on a blown off arm.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 4:19 pm to AlxTgr
quote:
I like that. I have never felt great about keeping 12" trout.
I dont really care about the size, but there is no reason to keep 25 trout per person....15 trout per person is plenty
Posted on 8/3/23 at 4:53 pm to tgrbaitn08
The commissioners job is to protect the game fish...the pogey boat issue needs to be taken up with your local elected state representatives and senators . Yes pogey boats need to restricted big time so CCA and other grassroots organizations need to get out and fight to get pogey boats regulated. But you better get millions of dollars to fight dem cuz their lobbyist have millions of dollars.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 5:40 pm to tgrbaitn08
quote:
I dont really care about the size, but there is no reason to keep 25 trout per person....15 trout per person is plenty
unless you are a hypocrite why stop there, there is no reason to keep 15 trout per person.... 5 trout per person is plenty, see how easy that is?
Posted on 8/3/23 at 5:54 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
Best speckled trout season in years on both sides of the state
Decreased numbers my arse.
And out of 243 trout caught in 4 trips by a total of 12 anglers, only 1 trout was caught on live bait
I estimate 1 out of 3 fish were b/w 12-13 in
There is no way I’m absorbing camp, boat, and travel expenses for this hobby when they make this official
It would be like going to the golf course and being told you can only play 11 holes. LOL
The whole recreational industry from charters to bait sales will suffer, IMO. I’ll spend my dollars on another hobby. I stopped hunting for the same reasons. Won’t be too hard
Decreased numbers my arse.
And out of 243 trout caught in 4 trips by a total of 12 anglers, only 1 trout was caught on live bait
I estimate 1 out of 3 fish were b/w 12-13 in
There is no way I’m absorbing camp, boat, and travel expenses for this hobby when they make this official
It would be like going to the golf course and being told you can only play 11 holes. LOL
The whole recreational industry from charters to bait sales will suffer, IMO. I’ll spend my dollars on another hobby. I stopped hunting for the same reasons. Won’t be too hard
Posted on 8/3/23 at 6:00 pm to keakar
shite 1 nice one can make a meal. Let's all just keep 1 .
Posted on 8/3/23 at 6:38 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:
shite 1 nice one can make a meal.
Texas limits suck when when you're catching 5 17" trout you at least end up with quite a bit of meat.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 6:51 pm to tgrbaitn08
quote:
15 trout per person is plenty
Well, that's like your opinion, man...
15 would be plenty for me, as I can go plenty often. What about someone that goes 1-2x/yr? 25 trout doesn't sound like too much in that case.
Limit shouldn't be based on what you feel is "enough" for someone.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 9:00 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
How big of an impact are the pogey boats having on trout in LA? I’m not a fan by any means but I’m not sure it’s having as big of an impact on trout as many people imply
Redfish is another topic entirely
Redfish is another topic entirely
Posted on 8/3/23 at 9:37 pm to wahoocs
I've heard the same BS from some folks in Texas every time the limit gets lowered, guess what? There are more people than ever fishing in the bays of Texas. Your crazy if you think your dollars will be missed, there are plenty of sportsmen out there that do not judge the enjoyment of their trips by the number of fillets they throw in the freezer.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 9:57 pm to hall59tiger
quote:
How big of an impact are the pogey boats having on trout in LA? I’m not a fan by any means but I’m not sure it’s having as big of an impact on trout as many people imply
They are removing a substantial amount of forage. When coupled with habitat loss and increasing rod and reel pressure every year I have to imagine it's putting a squeeze on the population. If all of those pogies were still in the water do you think the sharks, dolphins and other predatory species may be targeting pogies instead of speckled trout or redfish? I imagine they'd still eat their piece of the overall stock but likely not as much as we are seeing now.
Marine eco systems are greatly impacted by natural and unnatural influences. Many a tale of over fishing a forage species and the rest of the chain collapsing.
I think there are bigger influences than rec. anglers such as substantial commercial forage depletion and habitat loss. If the population is dwindling and cannot rebound then it takes some coordination in regulatory action for pogeys/ adding back marsh, shell, sand, rubble, rock reef structure/ and fine tuning recreational harvest.
This post was edited on 8/3/23 at 10:02 pm
Posted on 8/3/23 at 10:57 pm to TxWadingFool
To each his own
I spent a wknd in Cocodrie with friends from Houston. Drove all the way over here to fish and took all the filets Caught better in a wknd than they have for years in TX
They have kayaks. No need for a boat to catch a TX limit. Nobody here going to TX to fish, and if they do, it’s for one fish with size
You say every time the limit gets lowered? LMAO. Does it get lower than 5? It’s been there for decades, right? Maybe they could pass a law that you have to bring a trout with you and release it before you can catch one.
You don’t sound like a guy with a several hundred thousand dollar camp and an expensive boat that lives 2.5 hrs from the camp. More power to you driving your truck to the beach and being fulfilled by the sport alone
Im not hating on you and your level of investment. But not everyone is satisfied by just fishing. I like catching more than fishing, and I actually enjoy cleaning fish as much as eating them.
I enjoy freshwater fishing ponds the way you enjoy saltwater. I never keep any freshwater fish. I also invest next to nothing fishing local ponds.
I spent a wknd in Cocodrie with friends from Houston. Drove all the way over here to fish and took all the filets Caught better in a wknd than they have for years in TX
They have kayaks. No need for a boat to catch a TX limit. Nobody here going to TX to fish, and if they do, it’s for one fish with size
You say every time the limit gets lowered? LMAO. Does it get lower than 5? It’s been there for decades, right? Maybe they could pass a law that you have to bring a trout with you and release it before you can catch one.
You don’t sound like a guy with a several hundred thousand dollar camp and an expensive boat that lives 2.5 hrs from the camp. More power to you driving your truck to the beach and being fulfilled by the sport alone
Im not hating on you and your level of investment. But not everyone is satisfied by just fishing. I like catching more than fishing, and I actually enjoy cleaning fish as much as eating them.
I enjoy freshwater fishing ponds the way you enjoy saltwater. I never keep any freshwater fish. I also invest next to nothing fishing local ponds.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 11:03 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
Wasn't this almost the exact same plan the politicians shot down not long ago?
Now the process starts all over? Who can possibly make money off this? Some politician/politician's family must be able to.
Now the process starts all over? Who can possibly make money off this? Some politician/politician's family must be able to.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 6:08 am to Saskwatch
quote:
I think there are bigger influences than rec. anglers such as substantial commercial forage depletion and habitat loss. If the population is dwindling and cannot rebound then it takes some coordination in regulatory action for pogeys/ adding back marsh, shell, sand, rubble, rock reef structure/ and fine tuning recreational harvest.
Habitat degradation is the elephant in the room
Posted on 8/4/23 at 6:10 am to wahoocs
quote:
ou don’t sound like a guy with a several hundred thousand dollar camp and an expensive boat that lives 2.5 hrs from the camp. More power to you driving your truck to the beach and being fulfilled by the sport alone
One of my neighbors has a 100k boat and much more expensive camp - goes 3.7 hours each way every weekend to bass fishing- never keeps a fish
Posted on 8/4/23 at 7:11 am to choupiquesushi
Yea, but you can't just stroke a pen and fix that. Pogey boats is easy and impactful. Low hanging fruit. No brainer.
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