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The story of how the Browning Auto-5 entered production

Posted on 6/6/19 at 9:19 pm
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 6/6/19 at 9:19 pm
John M. Browning considered the A5 to be his best design. Up to that point he was selling many of his designs to Winchester on a flat fee. With the A5 he decided he wanted a fee plus royalties from the gun. He met with Winchester to discuss building the gun and they would not agree to royalties, so he went elsewhere. This disagreement effectively ended his relationship with that company (Later, Winchester also didn’t really want a semi-auto gun that would compete with the Model 12).

So then JMB set a meeting with Remington. He was in the waiting room to discuss the project when the president of Remington died of a heart attack, so the agreement didn’t happen at that time.

Finally he approached Fabrique Nationale in Belgium and worked out a deal to build the gun. They manufactured and sold it as the Browning Auto 5. Much later production was handled by Miroku in Japan.

Soon after Remington contracted to build a version of the A5 known as the Model 11. This Remington was the first American made semi-auto shotgun. Savage later built a couple of versions as well. These guns are long gone from production.

I believe the last Auto 5 was sold by Browning in 1999 as the ‘Last Tribute’ guns, almost 100 years after the model was introduced. Somewhat curiously no other companies have built a version since.

If you have ever shot an old ‘Humpback’ you know it is a unique feel from other shotguns with the movement of the action (barrel moving back into the receiver!). If not, give it a try. You might get hooked.


This post was edited on 6/6/19 at 9:48 pm
Posted by ecb
Member since Jul 2010
9710 posts
Posted on 6/6/19 at 9:29 pm to
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
26866 posts
Posted on 6/6/19 at 9:30 pm to
The new A5 is a direct copy of the Super Black Eagle internally.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
96465 posts
Posted on 6/6/19 at 9:41 pm to
My dad has an original FN Browning A5. It was his grandfathers. Not a scratch on it, looks brand new. He never shoots it. It will be passed to me one day
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 6/6/19 at 9:44 pm to
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My dad has an original FN Browning A5. It was his grandfathers. Not a scratch on it, looks brand new. He never shoots it. It will be passed to me one day



What a great heirloom from your family. You might take it to the dove field on a cool weather day and shoot a few birds. Or just admire it without shooting it.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
96465 posts
Posted on 6/6/19 at 9:51 pm to
We have shot it dove hunting a few times. Carry it in the original leather case my great grandpa bought with it. Just meant we never shoot it regularly. Maybe once every few years

We have a few cool heirlooms. I have a gold handled letter opener from the 1700s that my great grandma got from her grandmother. Also my mom has a few coins from the 1600 and 1700s
This post was edited on 6/6/19 at 9:53 pm
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
26866 posts
Posted on 6/6/19 at 10:43 pm to
Friend of mines dad, when he found out that they were ceasing production he went out and bought every one he could find. I think he ended up with 15 or 20.

I have seen that he has at least 10 still in the boxes and have never been opened.
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
4237 posts
Posted on 6/6/19 at 11:01 pm to
My dad had Browning Auto-5 in 16 ga.,I never liked it-the hump bothered me.The John Browning story is fascinating-I had no idea that he had invented all the guns he did ,such as 1911 .45,,30 cal.machine gun,on and on.He was an absolute genius.
The Gaston Glock story is very interesting,also.Glock had never owned a firearm of any kind before he decided to design a pistol when the Austrian army announced they wanted to adopt a new handgun.
Airline hijackings were the thing when Glock 17 came out,our ignorant media had a meltdown over the “plastic pistol” they claimed wouldn’t be detectable by metal detectors.
Glock is obviously a mechanical genius but he is a 1’st class A hole.
Posted by Bama and Beer
Baldwin Co, AL
Member since Oct 2010
82339 posts
Posted on 6/7/19 at 6:20 am to
My dad has an A5 Belgium made and we've shot the shite out of it. Still in fantastic condition

Those japs don't make em the same
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
19028 posts
Posted on 6/7/19 at 7:38 am to
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Browning Auto-5

I have one and I used it for years. The finish didn't hold up well in brackish marshes so I had to reblue mine at some point. I loved the shotgun but it is a heavy son of a gun (no pun).
I quit using it when steel shot was required. Shotguns evolved quickly or maybe not so to 3 inch and 3 1/2 inch versions. But back in the day of 2 3/4 magnum lead shot an A5 was all that was needed for a successful duck hunt.
Posted by ducksnbass
Member since Apr 2014
754 posts
Posted on 6/7/19 at 7:45 am to
I have several Belgium and Japanese made ones. Still hunt with them regularly. My son also has a version of the Auto-5 that was manufactured by Daiwa (the same company that makes fishing reels) in Japan. It was later made by Yamamoto in Japan for Charles Daly called the "Auto-Pointer". It's much lighter than the original auto-5, even the "Light" models and shoots great.


This post was edited on 6/7/19 at 7:54 am
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
92395 posts
Posted on 6/7/19 at 8:07 am to
Genius is tossed around way too much. But, if Edison was a genius, Browning was a genius.
Posted by mikeytig
NE of Tiger Stadium
Member since Nov 2007
7491 posts
Posted on 6/7/19 at 8:11 am to
quote:

an A5 Belgium made


arguably the best production shotgun ever made
Posted by ecb
Member since Jul 2010
9710 posts
Posted on 6/7/19 at 4:38 pm to
Good
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
26866 posts
Posted on 6/7/19 at 6:19 pm to
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Good



It means it is NOT the browning A-5.

It’s a super black eagle with a new receiver
Posted by MontanaTiger
Montana
Member since Oct 2008
3887 posts
Posted on 6/7/19 at 8:09 pm to
I have three Belgium made A-5’s. The workmanship is incredible for a production gun. If it’s not the best production gun ever made, it is certainly the best autoloader ever made. It’s the only autoloader I’ll hunt with.
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