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re: What is a Good Pirogue for Duck Hunting?
Posted on 8/17/18 at 9:18 am to White Bear
Posted on 8/17/18 at 9:18 am to White Bear
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White Bear
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No, you dont duck hunt at all do yo?
Plenty of ducks have been killed out of a Native Ultimate. I hunt in my Old Town kayak a bunch and it has been a huge help in many occasions.
And as far as kayaks go, the Ultimate is the best option for loading/unloading out of a mothership.
That being said, for the OPs specific purpose, I think a fiberglass pirogue is that right answer. Lighter, smaller, stackable and easier to handle, plus the shallower draft. As mentioned, Ron Chapman's are the go-to but by no means the only option.
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Posted on 8/17/18 at 10:46 am to Crazy Hoss
Have had a Bobcat fiberglass pirogue for around 40 years and is still in good shape with all it has been thru. Best I remember I bought from factory in Gloster, Texas
Posted on 8/17/18 at 11:17 am to The Last Coco
I don't doubt it but I wouldn't use one.
I have a Chapman Copperhead which with me (I'm "husky") is loaded, close to overloaded but perfect for flooded timber, etc. Paddles great and is very fast. I'd prefer a Cottonmouth or larger boat if in open water though.
I used a Dextron out of Alex. for years and still have it. It's tough but similar to paddling a sheet of 3/4" plywood compared to the Chapman. I think Dextron is now Bayou Rapides Fiberglass or similar. Therefore, Chapman for the win if fast/light is the goal.
I have a Chapman Copperhead which with me (I'm "husky") is loaded, close to overloaded but perfect for flooded timber, etc. Paddles great and is very fast. I'd prefer a Cottonmouth or larger boat if in open water though.
I used a Dextron out of Alex. for years and still have it. It's tough but similar to paddling a sheet of 3/4" plywood compared to the Chapman. I think Dextron is now Bayou Rapides Fiberglass or similar. Therefore, Chapman for the win if fast/light is the goal.
This post was edited on 8/17/18 at 11:18 am
Posted on 8/17/18 at 1:49 pm to speckledawg
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Lots of people do it. If only using it and not the kayak + boat,
That's my problem now. Its that moving a arse busting kayak up into a 20' skiff and riding a good ways before transferring into it.
Posted on 8/17/18 at 1:55 pm to bluemoons
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I spend most of my time in a 10.5
This is what I would really like to do. Biloxi Marsh area back in the ponds seems like it would work.
Posted on 8/17/18 at 1:58 pm to CHEDBALLZ
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Get one from Go-Devil, all aluminum and they float. 12' is like $90 painted.
Will be hitting that up next week!
Posted on 11/13/18 at 6:25 am to White Bear
Bump. Trying to break down a buy a pirogue.
I like the Chapman Cottonmouths but if I'm loaded down with gear and dogs I don't have much room for error when it comes to taking water over the sides.
Only other one I'm looking at are the critter getters. But looking at the specs, the sides are the same height. Anyone know which pirogue has more freeboard when loaded down?
I like the Chapman Cottonmouths but if I'm loaded down with gear and dogs I don't have much room for error when it comes to taking water over the sides.
Only other one I'm looking at are the critter getters. But looking at the specs, the sides are the same height. Anyone know which pirogue has more freeboard when loaded down?
Posted on 11/13/18 at 6:34 am to Tbooux
I'd get a ron chapman with spudholes.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 6:41 am to Crazy Hoss
Big Gus 14' from Gus' Tackle and Nets $399.99
Posted on 11/13/18 at 8:28 am to Swampman
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Best I remember I bought from factory in Gloster, Texas
Gloster is in La. Howevever, Bobcat was bought out several years back and moved elsewhere. Winnfield or Natchitoches maybe? Water Moccasin is still made in Stonewall, LA.This post was edited on 11/13/18 at 8:30 am
Posted on 11/14/18 at 5:58 pm to Crazy Hoss
Man, I've learned the hard way. For the type of hunting and fishing I like to do Aluminum is the way to go! They don't break, and they are light. Grumman is my preference. You can drag them across open ground, lift them over fences, drop them off of your truck onto pavement etc...They are virtually indestructible. The onnnllyyyy disadvantage to me is that when one person is in them on a windy day they get dragged around by the wind. This is manageable by distributing your weight though.
Fiberglass starts to let water in through the finish and that is the beginning of the end. You have to sand and refinish and it is never ending.
Wood also is to dense and heavy. It splinters and is breakable.
They make plastic canoes, but they suck because the seats tear away from the frame....
Aluminum will last much longer than any other material.
Fiberglass starts to let water in through the finish and that is the beginning of the end. You have to sand and refinish and it is never ending.
Wood also is to dense and heavy. It splinters and is breakable.
They make plastic canoes, but they suck because the seats tear away from the frame....
Aluminum will last much longer than any other material.
This post was edited on 11/14/18 at 6:01 pm
Posted on 11/14/18 at 7:00 pm to Duck enticer
Didn’t know Grumman made pirogues. Have two of the dextrons that are +-38 years old and still going strong so your take on glass doesn’t hold up is b s. For poling I prefer a round bottom 10’ like we used in lacassine back in the 90’s. Not sure where the guy I hunted with bought them but they were light, fast and tippy.
Posted on 11/15/18 at 2:10 am to KemoSabe65
Glad you had a different experience Kemo sabe. Doesn't mean my experience is b.s. My guess is you dont put the wear and tear on your pirogue like me, but I don't know. I know I've mended 3 fiberglass pirogues in my life. 30 years of hunting. Fiberglass netting and resin is nasty stuff too. Stinks.
When fiberglass begins to weaken it'll dry rot forming pin holes. Water gets inside the rotten holes and begins to work it's way In Between the layers of fiberglass. Water is adhesive so it's amazing what it will do to the inside of a pirogue. Not only does it add water weight, but also accelerates the decomposition of the fiberglass. Fiberglass pirogues aren't made like fibergladd boats because they'd be too heavy. Don't be naive. Aluminum is smooth, seamless, durable and light. Aluminum canoe is the way to go.
When fiberglass begins to weaken it'll dry rot forming pin holes. Water gets inside the rotten holes and begins to work it's way In Between the layers of fiberglass. Water is adhesive so it's amazing what it will do to the inside of a pirogue. Not only does it add water weight, but also accelerates the decomposition of the fiberglass. Fiberglass pirogues aren't made like fibergladd boats because they'd be too heavy. Don't be naive. Aluminum is smooth, seamless, durable and light. Aluminum canoe is the way to go.
Posted on 11/15/18 at 2:14 am to KemoSabe65
Canoes ( rounded bottoms) are better for the marsh in my opinion. The rounded bottoms don't get stuck on grass debris and you can push through the shower stuff a whole lot easier than that wide base, and it's not even close. You might need a little experience to not tip them, but it's not hard to get used to a canoe. I flipped them both
Posted on 11/15/18 at 6:58 am to Duck enticer
There are thousands of fiberglass pit blinds in Louisiana marshes that would disagree with your claim. Glass can’t rot nor can gel coat and they are made the same way as boats just thinner. Canoes do offer greater carrying capacity and I have used them but they take up a ton of space in the mother ship.
Posted on 11/15/18 at 7:06 am to White Bear
quote:Huh? Your question seems ignorant.
No, you dont duck hunt at all do yo?
Posted on 11/15/18 at 7:09 am to AlxTgr
Chapmans with the synthetic rails.
OP mentions loaded with gear and "dogs"...how many dogs you taking baw?
I have chapman cottonmouths, have not found their limits yet. Gold standard for marsh hunting.
OP mentions loaded with gear and "dogs"...how many dogs you taking baw?
I have chapman cottonmouths, have not found their limits yet. Gold standard for marsh hunting.
Posted on 11/15/18 at 8:56 am to AlxTgr
quote:I wouldn't use a kayak for hunting so I gave you some shite for suggesting such. Although I might should look into it because I'm slowly outgrowing my Chapman.
Huh? Your question seems ignorant.
Posted on 11/15/18 at 9:44 am to KemoSabe65
quote:"The Creep" is real baw. I have a beer habit.
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