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Youth 20 gauge ???
Posted on 2/26/15 at 12:50 pm
Posted on 2/26/15 at 12:50 pm
Mossberg 510 mini at Academy for $279. Seems like a pretty good deal to dress out my 5 yr old to get us qualified for youth turkey hunt.
Any experiences or advice welcomed
Any experiences or advice welcomed
Posted on 2/26/15 at 12:54 pm to WRedmondsStang
I've never like Mossberg products.
My first shotgun was a 20 ga. Winchester Youth model - Alloy reciever, so it's lighter, and quality that I can pass down to my kids and grandchildren.
Winchester SXP Compact Field $349
Benelli Nova Compact $400
Remington Express Youth $350
Browning BPS Micro $375
Spend a few $$ more, and get a much better firearm.
ETA: At 5 yrs. old, anything is going to kick hard. At least he's not duck hunting and shooting 50+ times
A semi-auto would have less recoil, but cost you double.
My first shotgun was a 20 ga. Winchester Youth model - Alloy reciever, so it's lighter, and quality that I can pass down to my kids and grandchildren.
Winchester SXP Compact Field $349
Benelli Nova Compact $400
Remington Express Youth $350
Browning BPS Micro $375
Spend a few $$ more, and get a much better firearm.
ETA: At 5 yrs. old, anything is going to kick hard. At least he's not duck hunting and shooting 50+ times

A semi-auto would have less recoil, but cost you double.
This post was edited on 2/26/15 at 1:12 pm
Posted on 2/26/15 at 1:10 pm to WRedmondsStang
A .20 gauge pump is going to kick a 5yr old awefully hard.
I haven't let my 8yr old shoot a 20 gauge pump yet.
I haven't let my 8yr old shoot a 20 gauge pump yet.
Posted on 2/26/15 at 1:12 pm to WRedmondsStang
I got the 510 mini .410 for my son and was not impressed. Cheap made gun, safety hard for him to operate. Have since handed it down to BIL for his son.
IMO a 20 gauge pump will ruin a kid for a while because of the recoil. If you're set on a 20 and your 5 yr old is average size, look into a Hatsan Escort 20 auto. That's what mine shoots now, accepts 3" with screw in chokes, and is truly a youth just like the 510. Very light and dependable so far, and they're around $480. JMO
IMO a 20 gauge pump will ruin a kid for a while because of the recoil. If you're set on a 20 and your 5 yr old is average size, look into a Hatsan Escort 20 auto. That's what mine shoots now, accepts 3" with screw in chokes, and is truly a youth just like the 510. Very light and dependable so far, and they're around $480. JMO
This post was edited on 2/26/15 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 2/26/15 at 1:13 pm to WRedmondsStang
Also, check out this article:
https://www.gundogmag.com/gear-accessories/youth-shotguns-budget/
https://www.gundogmag.com/gear-accessories/youth-shotguns-budget/
Posted on 2/26/15 at 1:23 pm to WRedmondsStang
Got my son a Tristar youth semi auto 20 at academy 2 Christmases ago for about 280-300. It's no Italian made auto, but it's a good gun with a decent action. We haven't put a ton of rounds through it but the reviews I read on it seemed pretty good for the price.
Posted on 2/26/15 at 1:31 pm to WRedmondsStang
I still hunt with my Remington 870 express youth model, a new one dont cost much more than the mossberg I think. A 20 gauge seems a bit much for a five year old, get him a .410 or a .22, just my two cents.
Posted on 2/26/15 at 1:53 pm to WRedmondsStang
I have a six year-old, and recently went through the same process of trying to determine what a good first shotgun would be. I have concluded that she is too young for any shotgun for these reasons:
1. Nearly all stocks -- even on youth guns -- are far too long for her. By a few inches. And my kid is long, lanky, and tall for her age. Even the smallest toy gun at the Cabela's indoor shooting gallery was too big for her, and those things have like a 9-10" length of pull.
2. Kid shotguns are light, and light shotguns kick like a mule.
3. I'm not too keen on starting a kid off with a .410. I have no experience with those, but I just can't imagine that a shell that small will get the job done.
I was in middle school the first time a shot a 20 gauge pump. I remember it well, because it kicked the [expletive] out of me. I can't imagine giving my six year-old a 20 gauge. In summary, I feel your pain because I want to hunt with my kid too, but the reality for me is that six years old is too young to operate an effective shotgun.
1. Nearly all stocks -- even on youth guns -- are far too long for her. By a few inches. And my kid is long, lanky, and tall for her age. Even the smallest toy gun at the Cabela's indoor shooting gallery was too big for her, and those things have like a 9-10" length of pull.
2. Kid shotguns are light, and light shotguns kick like a mule.
3. I'm not too keen on starting a kid off with a .410. I have no experience with those, but I just can't imagine that a shell that small will get the job done.
I was in middle school the first time a shot a 20 gauge pump. I remember it well, because it kicked the [expletive] out of me. I can't imagine giving my six year-old a 20 gauge. In summary, I feel your pain because I want to hunt with my kid too, but the reality for me is that six years old is too young to operate an effective shotgun.
Posted on 2/26/15 at 1:58 pm to WRedmondsStang
Benelli Nova Lite ftw
Posted on 2/26/15 at 2:09 pm to aVatiger
Appreciate all replies. Maybe I need to wait for the little guy to age some. Just got excited about the potential of calling. Bird in for him next weekend.
Posted on 2/26/15 at 2:09 pm to Grebe
quote:
Nearly all stocks -- even on youth guns -- are far too long for her. By a few inches.
Taurus Judge in .410 - no worries about length of pull

Posted on 2/26/15 at 2:18 pm to Shexter
I still hunt with my Winchester Ranger 20 gauge. Fabulous pump shotgun.
This post was edited on 2/26/15 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 2/26/15 at 2:22 pm to Croacka
quote:
Got my son a Tristar youth semi auto 20 at academy
My buddy got his kid one. Loves it. I got mine a 870 20 gauge pump back when he was a tyke. That biatch kicks like a mule. My kid hated it.
Posted on 2/26/15 at 2:42 pm to Broke
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Winchester Ranger 20 gauge
Same gun I grew up with. Not a spec of rust on it 25 years later. It came with a youth stock and a certificate for a full sized stock. I mailed that in when I hit 15.
I bought a used 12 gauge version of the same gun about 5 years ago on Gunbroker.

The closest thing to it now would be the SXP Compact. $343 at Cheaper Than Dirt
It's now Turkish-made, but still has good features:
inertia-assisted action
dual action bars
bore and chamber are hard-chrome-plated
Posted on 2/26/15 at 2:52 pm to Shexter
I'm going to buy my son a Benelli M2 compact. It is definitely overkill but the way I look at it is that he will have this gun for the rest of his life and his kids will use it. Might as well pay a little more it and teach him to take care of it.
Posted on 2/26/15 at 3:14 pm to WRedmondsStang
Bought my son one for dove season (mossy oak color). It's what everybody is saying it is. Not smooth cycling, hard as heck safety, and kicks like a mule. He shoots it well and doesn't complain but I'm going to get him something different next year. He also shot buckshot out of it deer hunting. My boys a skinny 8 year old. If you get it you might look at loading the buttstock with leadshot to give it a little more weight. He used a 410 up until this year for everything.
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