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re: Anybody on here do any work to solve the homeless problem near you?
Posted on 4/21/25 at 5:09 pm to baybeefeetz
Posted on 4/21/25 at 5:09 pm to baybeefeetz
I write checks to select organizations. I support the YMCA where I grew up and haven’t visited in sometime now.
I could do more.
Nice thread, makes people think.
I could do more.
Nice thread, makes people think.
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Posted on 4/21/25 at 5:09 pm to RogerTheShrubber
You might give or volunteer for meals on wheels. Lot of single old folks out there living only on a small social security check.
Posted on 4/21/25 at 5:10 pm to baybeefeetz
I appreciate those who may have noticed I didn’t say help homeless people. I said solve the problem.
Posted on 4/21/25 at 5:12 pm to baybeefeetz
Work, stay off drugs, keep from being homeless.
Seems to be working for me well enough.
Seems to be working for me well enough.
Posted on 4/21/25 at 5:12 pm to baybeefeetz
99% of homeless people are mentally ill or on drugs. They dont want help
Posted on 4/21/25 at 5:13 pm to texas tortilla
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You might give or volunteer for meals on wheels. Lot of single old folks out there living only on a small social security check.
I've volunteered for senior citizens homes since.
I pretty much know the local homeless, and which ones are mentally ill and which ones are lazy/drug users.
I'll give the mentally ill a few dollars. Not the junkies.
Posted on 4/21/25 at 5:13 pm to baybeefeetz
Well, I was one of 2 people that spoke at our city council in favor of an ordinance to make camping in city parks a punishable offense.
My view: There is nothing charitable or humane about encouraging people to live on the streets.
It was literally 2 of us against about 40-50 others in a 5+ hour public comment session.
The ordinance passed 5-4 at 1 am.
Don’t complain about the outcome if you won’t participate in the process.
My view: There is nothing charitable or humane about encouraging people to live on the streets.
It was literally 2 of us against about 40-50 others in a 5+ hour public comment session.
The ordinance passed 5-4 at 1 am.
Don’t complain about the outcome if you won’t participate in the process.
This post was edited on 4/21/25 at 6:58 pm
Posted on 4/21/25 at 5:15 pm to baybeefeetz
If we fixed some other areas first then a concerted effort with think tank solutions might go a long way in solving it?
I don’t think you will ever get rid of it as the country is sick right now and taking chemo.
If it lives then things could get much better!
I don’t think you will ever get rid of it as the country is sick right now and taking chemo.
If it lives then things could get much better!
Posted on 4/21/25 at 5:19 pm to baybeefeetz
The jailhouse has helped a lot of these homeless. Many get off their meds for mental illness. Get arrested, get them back on their meds, get cleaned up. See medical people. Get released. Rinse and repeat. There are missions in downtown Houston to help them but they won't go.
Posted on 4/21/25 at 5:27 pm to baybeefeetz
It's a substance abuse and mental health problem - homelessness is just a visible symptom.
Posted on 4/21/25 at 5:46 pm to lake chuck fan
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There aren't homeless around here. My solution would be that they get a job. Dig a ditch. Be the best ditch digger you can be. Show up every day and outperform the other ditch diggers and I can guarantee that you will move up.
If your on drugs, stop using drugs.
Only the truly mentally ill homeless folks need actual help.
Helping folks won't make them tough, motivated, or desire something better.
up vote5. down vote4
The amount of down votes demonstrates the core problem with our nation. An ever increasing weak and liberal worldview that doesn't understand the idea of personal responsibility.
Folks always wanting to make excuses for others problems.
This post was edited on 4/21/25 at 5:49 pm
Posted on 4/21/25 at 5:50 pm to baybeefeetz
You can't help people that don't want the help! Unfortunately, the strong majority of homeless are so by choice or mental illness
Posted on 4/21/25 at 5:55 pm to IamNotaRobot
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We need to bus them to Denver and California.
It’s estimated that 40% of the homeless here in Cali are from out of state. We don’t need anymore of your druggies or purely lazy bastards.
To answer the OP, I do not work directly with the homeless. But we provide services to a client that provides many services to these types of people.
Posted on 4/21/25 at 5:56 pm to theagent39
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You can't help people that don't want the help! Unfortunately, the strong majority of homeless are so by choice
Right on.
I think many of these people are addicted to getting handouts and see things as disposable. They depend on the generosity of others. In Huntsville, AL the local government remodeled the camp and making it more organized. I think many just do not have a drive to succeed or an ego.
My church will do a blanket drive in the late summer early fall. And hand out food on occasion.
Posted on 4/21/25 at 5:56 pm to lake chuck fan
For those of you who are being flippant with your numbered lists or saying “the easy part” for dealing with drug addicts is to get them clean have no clue how hard it is to get sober.
It’s not easy.
Staying sober is even harder and takes alot of self-reflection and admitting that the habits and self-image someone’s built for themselves isn’t working. That doesn’t even account for addicts who have been shattered by serious trauma usually from their family of origin.
Just the slightest failure or argument or trigger can send an addict who’s been clean for a year off on a weeks-long bender.
How many people do you know like to look in the mirror and figure out what’s wrong with that person and then be willing to change them?
For a lot of addicts, it’s easier just to keep using. For every person you see successful in recovery, there’s 9 others who don’t make it. If it were easy, every addict would get and stay sober in a heartbeat.
It’s not easy.
Staying sober is even harder and takes alot of self-reflection and admitting that the habits and self-image someone’s built for themselves isn’t working. That doesn’t even account for addicts who have been shattered by serious trauma usually from their family of origin.
Just the slightest failure or argument or trigger can send an addict who’s been clean for a year off on a weeks-long bender.
How many people do you know like to look in the mirror and figure out what’s wrong with that person and then be willing to change them?
For a lot of addicts, it’s easier just to keep using. For every person you see successful in recovery, there’s 9 others who don’t make it. If it were easy, every addict would get and stay sober in a heartbeat.
Posted on 4/21/25 at 5:59 pm to baybeefeetz
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Anybody on here do any work to solve the homeless problem near you?
Yes. I call the cops every time they're snooping around in the yard looking for shite to steal.
Posted on 4/21/25 at 6:03 pm to baybeefeetz
Here’s the truth.
Vast majority of perennially street homeless in America are in severe mental crisis.
It’s incredibly sad, but despite what this board may joke they aren’t a pep talk or job application away from stability. They are destined to live in the street, or be involuntarily committed. Sad but true.
The larger “unhoused” stats include those couch surfing, living in their car or spending nights in hospital ERs to avoid the streets. This group is a better candidate for help, but they're much harder to find.
If I could give you one major piece of advice, you have to accept that you can’t help people until they’re ready to help themselves.
I once helped this woman find housing, stable situation in a woman’s shelter. But she told me up front “I won’t go to a woman’s shelter because my son has a DV charge and I need to protect him.” Despite her telling me up front I went through all the effort to set up the housing situation assuming she would see how it was better than living on the street.
But of course she didn’t, and my efforts were wasted. I don’t blame her, she didn’t want that help.
Find someone who’s
1. Mentally capable of accepting help
2. Ready to receive it.
Then make sure that you’re listening to them, and helping meet their actual needs and not trying to be their hero.
If you can do all that, you might just have a chance to make a difference. But it’s a hard hard hard area to help.
Good luck and god bless.
Vast majority of perennially street homeless in America are in severe mental crisis.
It’s incredibly sad, but despite what this board may joke they aren’t a pep talk or job application away from stability. They are destined to live in the street, or be involuntarily committed. Sad but true.
The larger “unhoused” stats include those couch surfing, living in their car or spending nights in hospital ERs to avoid the streets. This group is a better candidate for help, but they're much harder to find.
If I could give you one major piece of advice, you have to accept that you can’t help people until they’re ready to help themselves.
I once helped this woman find housing, stable situation in a woman’s shelter. But she told me up front “I won’t go to a woman’s shelter because my son has a DV charge and I need to protect him.” Despite her telling me up front I went through all the effort to set up the housing situation assuming she would see how it was better than living on the street.
But of course she didn’t, and my efforts were wasted. I don’t blame her, she didn’t want that help.
Find someone who’s
1. Mentally capable of accepting help
2. Ready to receive it.
Then make sure that you’re listening to them, and helping meet their actual needs and not trying to be their hero.
If you can do all that, you might just have a chance to make a difference. But it’s a hard hard hard area to help.
Good luck and god bless.
Posted on 4/21/25 at 6:05 pm to baybeefeetz
Yeah, I scream out “That’s Kevin! Don’t give money to Kevin! He’s a fricking grifter!”
He told me to GFM the other day lol
He told me to GFM the other day lol
Posted on 4/21/25 at 6:11 pm to baybeefeetz
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Anybody on here do any work to solve the homeless problem near you?
I've hired several people. None are currently homeless.
Might be a correlation there.
Posted on 4/21/25 at 6:16 pm to BIGJLAW
. . . the only way to fix the homeless is to start with the mental illness issues and house them together in the asylum's to get them treatment.
Ummm, the United States deinstitutionalized in the 50's and 60's, they shut down all of the "asylums".
Then as far as the drug addict, the easy part is to get them clean.
You are kidding, right? Have you ever met an actual drug addict? Short of locking them up in solitary confinement how the hell do you think you are going to "get them clean?"
Then the third to me is what welfare should help these who need it the most but are too proud to ask
You know all that money you think is available for welfare? There is this new agency called DOGE and . . .
Ummm, the United States deinstitutionalized in the 50's and 60's, they shut down all of the "asylums".
Then as far as the drug addict, the easy part is to get them clean.
You are kidding, right? Have you ever met an actual drug addict? Short of locking them up in solitary confinement how the hell do you think you are going to "get them clean?"
Then the third to me is what welfare should help these who need it the most but are too proud to ask
You know all that money you think is available for welfare? There is this new agency called DOGE and . . .
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