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Are these deportation numbers by recent presidents correct?
Posted on 4/21/25 at 10:50 am
Posted on 4/21/25 at 10:50 am
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Posted on 4/21/25 at 11:26 am to GumboPot
Lingering question:
If a judge issues an order of deportation, does that count as a deportation? Or does someone have to be physically deported for it to count?
If a judge issues an order of deportation, does that count as a deportation? Or does someone have to be physically deported for it to count?
Posted on 4/21/25 at 11:40 am to the808bass
Im not certain where those come from, but you remember obama as the deport king? During that time period I checked the homeland security site a few times and came across the ole Mark Twain adage of lies, damn lies, and statistics.
Under W term there were two types of removal. Deportations, this is when ICE picks up a bad hombre in Chicago and deports him. The second was turnarounds (I forget the vernacular) but it was people at the border who were not admitted. Obviously the latter is a far greater number.
Under obama they combined the two and called them all deportations......then they compared that to W's actual deportations, and voila the deport king obama was born. In actuality the true deportations of W were far greater than obama.
Under W term there were two types of removal. Deportations, this is when ICE picks up a bad hombre in Chicago and deports him. The second was turnarounds (I forget the vernacular) but it was people at the border who were not admitted. Obviously the latter is a far greater number.
Under obama they combined the two and called them all deportations......then they compared that to W's actual deportations, and voila the deport king obama was born. In actuality the true deportations of W were far greater than obama.
Posted on 4/21/25 at 11:44 am to GumboPot
We need to stop telling everyone when we are deporting these illegals and having these press releases about it. Just put them on a red eye out of a military base like they used to do. That’s how Biden brought them in.
I’m all for transparency but you have to have some discretion with some things so you can get your agenda through. No need to telegraph what you’re doing for all these liberal reporters and activists.
I’m all for transparency but you have to have some discretion with some things so you can get your agenda through. No need to telegraph what you’re doing for all these liberal reporters and activists.
Posted on 4/21/25 at 11:46 am to the808bass
808,
They physically have to be removed.
I remember under Sessions they prevented him from getting more judges to remove the backlog before trial of over 5 years. So he then decided to hold court for about 50 at a time, simply asking if they were truly afraid to go home or economic, if they lied they could never return. That worked great for about 12 hours til an ngo sued and an individual trial had to be for each person.
Thats what they want now, another trial for everyone, including the 100s of thousands who are criminals or have overstayed and never showed up for court date (yes I know they are all criminals).
They physically have to be removed.
I remember under Sessions they prevented him from getting more judges to remove the backlog before trial of over 5 years. So he then decided to hold court for about 50 at a time, simply asking if they were truly afraid to go home or economic, if they lied they could never return. That worked great for about 12 hours til an ngo sued and an individual trial had to be for each person.
Thats what they want now, another trial for everyone, including the 100s of thousands who are criminals or have overstayed and never showed up for court date (yes I know they are all criminals).
Posted on 4/21/25 at 11:49 am to GumboPot
How many tried the AIA as their reasoning to deport illegals?
Posted on 4/21/25 at 11:49 am to the808bass
quote:
If a judge issues an order of deportation, does that count as a deportation? Or does someone have to be physically deported for it to count?
And more importantly, did all 28 million receive due process?
Or was it just this most recent guy returned to his home country that got the shaft?
Posted on 4/21/25 at 11:50 am to oklahogjr
quote:
How many tried the AIA as their reasoning to deport illegals?
Seems like they deported when Biden let in tons of criminals and terrorists. You’ll be the first to blame trump when something happens though.
Posted on 4/21/25 at 12:44 pm to trinidadtiger
I found my answer. Deportations aren’t necessarily removals. All removals are deportations.
Removals under Obama were around 300k/yr.
LINK
Removals under Obama were around 300k/yr.
LINK
Posted on 4/21/25 at 12:49 pm to GumboPot
How many of those previous "deportations" were simply denial of entry counted as a deportation? If I'm not mistaken that is what Obama was doing.
Posted on 4/21/25 at 1:55 pm to the808bass
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This post was edited on 4/21/25 at 2:01 pm
Posted on 4/21/25 at 1:58 pm to EatnCreaux
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And more importantly, did all 28 million receive due process?
frick no they didn't. They were here ILLEGALLY. That is enough to deport them.
Posted on 4/21/25 at 1:59 pm to GumboPot
Bill Clinton says, " hold my beer!".
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During Bill Clinton’s presidency (1993–2001), approximately 12.3 million deportations occurred, according to the Migration Policy Institute. This figure includes:
870,000 formal removals: These were compulsory deportations based on an order of removal, often involving immigration court proceedings.
11.4 million voluntary returns: These involved individuals apprehended, primarily at the U.S.-Mexico border, who agreed to leave without a formal removal order, often before entering the country fully.
The high number of returns reflects Clinton’s policies, like the 1996 Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act (IIRAIRA), which expanded expedited removals and border enforcement. Critics note that counting returns as deportations inflates the total, as many never fully entered the U.S. For context, Doris Meissner, INS Commissioner, reported 67,094 deportations (criminal and non-criminal) in fiscal year 1995 alone, emphasizing criminal alien removals.
Posted on 4/21/25 at 2:00 pm to McChowder
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How many of those previous "deportations" were simply denial of entry counted as a deportation? If I'm not mistaken that is what Obama was doing.
The most significant portion of deportations under Obama were "removals," meaning they were already here in the country and were rounded up and sent back by the "Deporter-In-Chief."
Mainstream news and Democrats just ignored that and refused to cover it though.
Posted on 4/21/25 at 3:46 pm to trinidadtiger
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Under obama they combined the two and called them all deportations......then they compared that to W's actual deportations, and voila the deport king obama was born. In actuality the true deportations of W were far greater than obama.
I saw that. You also have to figure in the fact that deportations are so low under Trump because they aren't even trying to get into the country, anymore. Not as many jobs available, the risk that you'll be caught and deported, and you can no longer get into the country with free money, if you just make an asylum claim. There just aren't as many deportation opportunities...
Posted on 4/21/25 at 8:46 pm to Jax-Tiger
Could this country use a good dose of Bill Clinton right now?
Tough on immigration, trimmed a bloated government and got the economy chugging along.
Tough on immigration, trimmed a bloated government and got the economy chugging along.
Posted on 4/21/25 at 9:13 pm to oklahogjr
Bush ramped up everything post 9/11.
Doing full on worksite raids, began building a border wall, started department of homeland security.
Bush administration
Doing full on worksite raids, began building a border wall, started department of homeland security.
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Expedited Removal Use of "expedited removal" was expanded to quickly deport individuals caught near the border without a court hearing, especially if they had been in the U.S. for fewer than 14 days.
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5. 287(g) Agreements Local law enforcement agencies were allowed to collaborate with ICE through Section 287(g) of the Immigration and Nationality Act. This gave local police authority to identify, detain, and process undocumented immigrants.
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6. Criminal Alien Program (CAP) Focused on identifying and removing noncitizens with criminal records who were already in jails or prisons.
Bush administration
This post was edited on 4/21/25 at 9:15 pm
Posted on 4/21/25 at 9:14 pm to RT1941
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the economy chugging along.
After cutting taxes.
Posted on 4/21/25 at 10:03 pm to dgnx6
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Bush ramped up everything post 9/11.
As rahm Emmanuel once said never let an emergency go to waste....
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