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re: “Due process” for deportations is as ridiculous as squatters rights.

Posted on 4/22/25 at 9:22 pm to
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 4/22/25 at 9:22 pm to
And now he’s stuck in El Salvador.

So terrible.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
52856 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 9:22 pm to
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Garcia had a legal hearing,


Twice. And was ordered removed twice. You dumb idiot.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/22/25 at 9:23 pm to
Aw look at the ms-13 blow job alter.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
52856 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 9:23 pm to
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Deporting was illegal


Wrong. Deporting to El Salvador was improper. I don’t expect you to understand the difference. You won’t be here next week.
Posted by BertyFot
Member since Apr 2025
71 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 9:24 pm to
Yes, immigration court is administrative…but it’s still part of the U.S. legal system, dummy, and its rulings are legally binding. In Garcia’s case, a judge granted him withholding of removal in 2019, which isn’t the same as asylum but still offers legal protection from deportation to a specific country—in this case, El Salvador. Ya big dummy.

It doesn’t matter how many removal orders existed before that, stupid. Once the judge issued that protection, deporting him to El Salvador became a violation of U.S. law unless that ruling was formally overturned through proper legal channels, idiot. It wasn’t.

Calling it “temporary” doesn’t change the fact that a court ruling was on the books, ya big lummox, and DHS broke it. That’s the issue, dotard.

You don’t have to like Garcia or sympathize with him. But facts > feelings. And the facts say a legal order was ignored.

Idiot.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
149311 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 9:26 pm to
He will be banned within a week anyway.
Posted by BertyFot
Member since Apr 2025
71 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 9:27 pm to
“Improper” isn’t a softer version of illegal, it is illegal when it violates a standing federal court order. That’s not a gray area. A judge ruled Garcia could not be sent to El Salvador, and ICE did it anyway. That’s a direct violation of U.S. immigration law and judicial authority And what a weird thing to say.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
77302 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 9:28 pm to
How do you demand a citizen from El Salvador be returned?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
52856 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 9:29 pm to
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Yes, immigration court is administrative…but it’s still part of the U.S. legal system, dummy, and its rulings are legally binding. In Garcia’s case, a judge granted him withholding of removal in 2019, which isn’t the same as asylum but still offers legal protection from deportation to a specific country—in this case, El Salvador. Ya big dummy.


Yep. Which is why I said deporting him to El Salvador was improper. Did you miss that? Yikes.

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It doesn’t matter how many removal orders existed before that, stupid. Once the judge issued that protection, deporting him to El Salvador became a violation of U.S. law unless that ruling was formally overturned through proper legal channels, idiot. It wasn’t.


Oops. Now what?

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Calling it “temporary” doesn’t change the fact that a court ruling was on the books, ya big lummox, and DHS broke it. That’s the issue, dotard.


Does the Secretary of State have the discretion to to remove someone? Yes or no? Dummy.

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You don’t have to like Garcia or sympathize with him. But facts > feelings. And the facts say a legal order was ignored.


Of the two of us…one has represented an illegal in Immigration court.

You are a complete moron
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
14635 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 9:29 pm to
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That ruling legally barred his deportation there, and yet he was sent there anyway, violating a court order. But I’m sure you don’t care about following the law considering the politicians you admire.


The irony and pretentiousness it takes to utter this complete bullshite as if we all didn’t just live through the last 4 years of democratic lawfare is impressive.

You’re probably a huge piece of shite in real life as well, not just on a message board.
Posted by BertyFot
Member since Apr 2025
71 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 9:30 pm to
Again, don’t pretend like you care about the law. And can’t refute any of what I said. Also, calm down, lol.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
52856 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 9:31 pm to
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Improper” isn’t a softer version of illegal, it is illegal


Only a complete moron would say this. Words have meaning. If I file a motion and the court says it was improper, did I do something illegal? Of course not you dumb idiot.

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That’s a direct violation of U.S. immigration law


Hmmm. Was opening the border also a direct violation of US immigration law? You dumb frick.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
77302 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 9:31 pm to
Bertyalter!
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
119620 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 9:33 pm to
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Again, don’t pretend like you care about the law.


Well, I would say to you, “don’t pretend like you care about the law.”

I also would say, “get fricked.”
Posted by BertyFot
Member since Apr 2025
71 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 9:35 pm to
I said that improper is not the same as illegal. You are trying to soften the situation, unless you agree that what was done was illegal, which is was, ya bafoon.

The point is that the law was violated and you don’t care, because you and your ilk believe the president should have unchecked power, ya turd!

And the no, the Secretary of State does not oversee immigration enforcement or deportations within U.S. borders, bozo. Maybe go back to “law school” at Devry. As a nuclear scientist with a botany degree, I’ve had firsthand experience with these things.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
119620 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 9:35 pm to
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The immigration and district court rulings may have very well been farcical. Based on the district judges actions and written statements since then I think it’s clear that it was.


I think that’s a wrap.

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This administration needs to play the game and win.


They did. They deported this shitstain before anyone could do anything about it. You can say it’s farcical. I’ll agree. And they won.
Posted by BertyFot
Member since Apr 2025
71 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 9:37 pm to
??
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
149311 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 9:38 pm to
Put on your pussy hat and get to protesting this terrible injustice. Tell the world you want third world gang members here.

Just being a bitch on the internet isnt going to bring your hero home.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
52856 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 9:38 pm to
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I said that improper is not the same as illega



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what was done was illegal, which is was, ya bafoon.


you dumb idiot.

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The point is that the law was violated and you don’t care, because you and your ilk believe the president should have unchecked power, ya turd!


It’s a procedural issue. Not one person argues he couldn’t be removed. You’re whining over procedure. You dumb idiot.

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And the no, the Secretary of State does not oversee immigration enforcement or deportations within U.S. borders, bozo.


If I post the statute granting the Secretary of State the power to revoke visas will you admit you’re an ignorant moron?

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Maybe go back to “law school” at Devry. As a nuclear scientist with a botany degree, I’ve had firsthand experience with these things.


How did you know I am a lawyer if you just signed up last week? fricking poor arse alter.
This post was edited on 4/22/25 at 9:40 pm
Posted by BertyFot
Member since Apr 2025
71 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 9:39 pm to
Mmm, yes- arguing that the government should follow the constitution is such a bitch move to someone who loves the president and their party more than their country.
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